Religion

[metalblue]

Did Adam have a cock before God invented woman...if so why.

Honestly I don’t know if he kept chickens. The bible was decidedly quiet on this point.

 

[metalblue]

Exactly, what a dick. Creates an entire species, gives them free will, gets pissy when they don't do what he'd really like them to do without giving an explicit instructions, kills them all except the Noahs. And nevermind the humans, also decides to destroy the entirety of all other species, even though they aren't capable of worshiping god, bar 2 instances of each, a male and a female, leading to inbreeding across every animal and almost certainly significant birth defects.

So basically he invented communism

 

[metalblue]

So he could urinate?

And wank. Mostly wank. But it’s a good question. If it was left to man or some higher being to invent humans our bodies would be akin to the operation game not the complicated interconnected machines that we are - no entity would design “us” this way.

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

The angels asked the same question when God created man. Some things are perhaps not meant to be understood.

Qur'an 2:30 "And, when your Lord said to the angels, “Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successor” They said, “Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?” Allah said, “Indeed, I know that which you do not know.”

That sounds like someone who was writing the Qu’ran got asked a good question, and his way of dealing with it was to say ‘fucked if I know’

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

So he could urinate?

Presumably testicles and sperm were a post Eve Addition. I hope Adam had painkillers for that op.

 

[bluejon]

But he's a forgiving god, a kind god and one you'd happily take home to meet your mother ;)

My mother's a right dick, he might smite her. That would be ace.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

The premise of the Christian/Muslim/Jewish religions is that there was potentially a bloke/some blokes and some women who people wrote stories about (sometimes hundreds of years after the alleged event) who were either the Son of 'God'. or vaguely related to the story of the Son of 'God'. Given these stories weren't even written from first hand accounts, the chances of them being remotely accurate are slim at best.

Even if you can back them up with the fact that individuals loosely resembling the characters in these stories may have actually existed around the time the original story is supposed to have taken place (give or take two hundred years) it still doesn't prove anything.

Add to the fact that the 'original' scriptures have been translated and interpreted so many different ways before being boiled down into the New Testament version of the Bible we have today and you essentially have nothing more than the future 20th generation of your family, long since emigrated to Germany via Spain reciting a 'bloke down the pub' story produced from a scrap of paper that had been found in a dusty old pile of paperwork that your 7th cousin removed 10 generations back had scribbled on the back of an old napkin.

 

[Brightwell’s left peg]

The premise of the Christian/Muslim/Jewish religions is that there was potentially a bloke/some blokes and some women who people wrote stories about (sometimes hundreds of years after the alleged event) who were either the Son of 'God'. or vaguely related to the story of the Son of 'God'. Given these stories weren't even written from first hand accounts, the chances of them being remotely accurate are slim at best.

Even if you can back them up with the fact that individuals loosely resembling the characters in these stories may have actually existed around the time the original story is supposed to have taken place (give or take two hundred years) it still doesn't prove anything.

Add to the fact that the 'original' scriptures have been translated and interpreted so many different ways before being boiled down into the New Testament version of the Bible we have today and you essentially have nothing more than the future 20th generation of your family, long since emigrated to Germany via Spain reciting a 'bloke down the pub' story produced from a scrap of paper that had been found in a dusty old pile of paperwork that your 7th cousin removed 10 generations back had scribbled on the back of an old napkin.

Very good. You should also add that the people writing them, re-writing them knew pretty much the square root of f all about the world and how it works.

 

[Beswick Prize Bands Big Drum]

Atheism and Religion are but two sides of the same coin, one prefers to use its head while the other relies on tails.

 

[MaineDAWG2008]

The premise of the Christian/Muslim/Jewish religions is that there was potentially a bloke/some blokes and some women who people wrote stories about (sometimes hundreds of years after the alleged event) who were either the Son of 'God'. or vaguely related to the story of the Son of 'God'. Given these stories weren't even written from first hand accounts, the chances of them being remotely accurate are slim at best.

Even if you can back them up with the fact that individuals loosely resembling the characters in these stories may have actually existed around the time the original story is supposed to have taken place (give or take two hundred years) it still doesn't prove anything.

Add to the fact that the 'original' scriptures have been translated and interpreted so many different ways before being boiled down into the New Testament version of the Bible we have today and you essentially have nothing more than the future 20th generation of your family, long since emigrated to Germany via Spain reciting a 'bloke down the pub' story produced from a scrap of paper that had been found in a dusty old pile of paperwork that your 7th cousin removed 10 generations back had scribbled on the back of an old napkin.

Some mistakes might I add in your posts.

Stories? Yes that does apply to the Christianity foundation, esp as we dont know who wrote the books of xxx. And the bibles that u find now, clearly have contradictions. But u cannot apply that to either Quran or the Torah. Moses never claimed to be son of God, nor did Mohammed. Nor did Jesus if you want to be factual. The doctrine was created hundreds of years after. AND nor did either call themselves god or sons. They called themselves messengers/teachers. Slight difference.

:-) Hope that helps

 

[MaineDAWG2008]

Very good. You should also add that the people writing them, re-writing them knew pretty much the square root of f all about the world and how it works.

Which books were re-written? please do provide evidence cos I would also like to know, and research. Genuine question btw.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Some mistakes might I add in your posts.

Stories? Yes that does apply to the Christianity foundation, esp as we dont know who wrote the books of xxx. And the bibles that u find now, clearly have contradictions. But u cannot apply that to either Quran or the Torah. Moses never claimed to be son of God, nor did Mohammed. Nor did Jesus if you want to be factual. The doctrine was created hundreds of years after. AND nor did either call themselves god or sons. They called themselves messengers/teachers. Slight difference.

:-) Hope that helps

I also said 'or vaguely related to the story of the Son of God'.

Hope that helps?

;-)

 

[mexico1970]

Some mistakes might I add in your posts.

Stories? Yes that does apply to the Christianity foundation, esp as we dont know who wrote the books of xxx. And the bibles that u find now, clearly have contradictions. But u cannot apply that to either Quran or the Torah. Moses never claimed to be son of God, nor did Mohammed. Nor did Jesus if you want to be factual. The doctrine was created hundreds of years after. AND nor did either call themselves god or sons. They called themselves messengers/teachers. Slight difference.

:-) Hope that helps

Matthew 27:43, while Jesus hangs on the cross, the Jewish leaders mock him to ask God help, "for he said, I am the Son of God", referring to the claim of Jesus to be the Son of God. ... In Luke 4:41 (and Mark 3:11), when Jesus casts out demons, they fall down before him, and declare: "You are the Son of God."

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Which books were re-written? please do provide evidence cos I would also like to know, and research. Genuine question btw.

The Bible Has Been Changed and Altered Over the Years (businessinsider.com)

 

[MaineDAWG2008]

Matthew 27:43, while Jesus hangs on the cross, the Jewish leaders mock him to ask God help, "for he said, I am the Son of God", referring to the claim of Jesus to be the Son of God. ... In Luke 4:41 (and Mark 3:11), when Jesus casts out demons, they fall down before him, and declare: "You are the Son of God."

Solomon was also called son of god too. But it doesn't mean its literal. Its more of a respect context. Would like to know the literal words in Aramaic.

 

[MaineDAWG2008]

The Bible Has Been Changed and Altered Over the Years (businessinsider.com)

Valid point. Gnna dig more deep on this. But u might be right, its not the first time I have heard this being said.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Solomon was also called son of god too. But it doesn't mean its literal. Its more of a respect context. Would like to know the literal words in Aramaic.

The thing I find infuriating with religious scholars is how they pick and chose which parts of the story are to be taken 'literally' and which parts aren't without a single shred of evidence to back up their assertions.

 

[JASR]

Valid point. Gnna dig more deep on this. But u might be right, its not the first time I have heard this being said.

What? The 1st time? So, Blinkered

 

[JASR]

The thing I find infuriating with religious scholars is how they pick and chose which parts of the story are to be taken 'literally' and which parts aren't without a single shred of evidence to back up their assertions.

It’s the same with religion adherents, let alone scholars.

the list of rules laid down in the bible for instance that are not adhered to, off the top of my head:
no tattoos
No mixed material clothes
Women should not speak till told they can
No shellfish

There’s endless

 

[mexico1970]

Solomon was also called son of god too. But it doesn't mean its literal. Its more of a respect context. Would like to know the literal words in Aramaic.

That's semantics though isn't it? If religions take the word as literal then it's literal, no cherry picking allowed.

That said they claim that he was the son of god and he claimed he was the son of god, not a lot of bloody confusion there mate :)