Religion

Damocles said:
Well it produces the most reliability with the least amount of chaos.

The scientific method is badly understood most of the time, but it can be best summed up by two phrases - predictable and repeatable. Every hypothesis has to be able to pass those caveats; it must predict an event and then produce that event in such a way that others can replicate it. This is the democratisation of the human experience, you have to be able to replicate my findings and vice versa, it requires no "trust" in people. People are generally the thing that causes most of the problems in science.

It's why we call it the best as every experiment is self evidently true when shown to be true and if somebody disagrees then they follow the process and see if it is replicated.

There's many thinkers who look at weaknesses within the scientific method and like any model it does have a few. However like the saying goes about capitalism, it's not perfect, it's just better than all of the alternatives.
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Appreciate this. Am also curious - for me, Life does not contain just the predictable and repeatable but also the unpredictable and unrepeatable. Perhaps for now we could give the latter role to 'art.' In this sense it may be the union of these two aspects that brings one closer to Truth? I'd kind of wonder if this could also be termed the relationship of
orthodox and unorthodox. Or maybe masculine and feminine.

As for trust I have experienced different kinds - one is more like trying to trust which is dependent on other people, the other more like a felt sense of inner trust that I am free to choose or not regardless of other people. Nothing wrong with the former but have tended to find the latter more useful in dealing with the unpredictable/unrepeatable in Life. Who knows - maybe this trust has a part to play in uniting science and art, free market and central government etc etc?

Edit : am now wondering if there is a kind of trust that requires something else to be distrusted eg I trust science but distrust art. Perhaps there is a kind of trust that could embrace both - maybe not so much as opposites but points along a fluid scale. Each is free where to be on that scale at each moment...?
 
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I find it incredible that you should use my Birthday to say goodbye to this most wonderful of off topic threads.Is this a sign ? The most articulate of all Moon men and which is why this thread lasted so long.What you say makes so much sense in a sea of utter primeval soup and you lad are a refreshing change to the daily bread we have to have regurgitate and imbibe upon. I read your posts many times to get the meaning and sometimes I got it wrong and sometimes I got it so right and so hallelujahs for interpretation.You good Arfur are the second coming and this board has long awaited your arrival.I have my own god and he lives on a mountain and suffers fools lightly knowing the riddle of steel but you are always worthy of a withered ear on this sabbatical road to Jerusalem.Read all your posts thrice over and your the real deal.Bless you pal and would love to hear some more of your tribulations.



Failing that I wouldn't half mind ruffling those gospel singers feathers.
 
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Two Gun Bob said:
I find it incredible that you should use my Birthday to say goodbye to this most wonderful of off topic threads.Is this a sign ? The most articulate of all Moon men and which is why this hallowed thread lasted so long.What you say makes so much sense in a sea of utter primeval soup and you lad are a refreshing change to the daily bread we have to have daily regurgitate and imbibe upon. I read your posts many times to get the meaning and sometimes I got it wrong and sometimes I got it so right and so hallelujahs for my own interpretation.You good Arfur are the second coming and this board has long awaited your arrival.I have my own god and he lives on a mountain and suffers fools lightly knowing the riddle of steel but you sir are always worthy of a withered ear on our sabbatical road to Jerusalem .Read all your posts thrice over and you are the real deal.Bless you pal and would love to hear some more of your tribulations.



Failing that I wouldn't half mind ruffling those gospel singers feathers.
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I can't decipher what the fuck you're waffling taxi, I can only assume you are full of thunderbird and your white beard full of pork scratching crumbs.
Here is a better song
 
Please delete your ethanol fused post lad or sadly he may not come.Once in a life time we encounter quality posters and yet you seek to alienate with your usual incandescent drivel : /
 
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Two Gun Bob said:
I find it incredible that you should use my Birthday to say goodbye to this most wonderful of off topic threads.Is this a sign ? The most articulate of all Moon men and which is why this thread lasted so long.What you say makes so much sense in a sea of utter primeval soup and you lad are a refreshing change to the daily bread we have to have daily regurgitate and imbibe upon. I read your posts many times to get the meaning and sometimes I got it wrong and sometimes I got it so right and so hallelujahs for my own interpretation.You good Arfur are the second coming and this board has long awaited your arrival.I have my own god and he lives on a mountain and suffers fools lightly knowing the riddle of steel but you are always worthy of a withered ear on our sabbatical road to Jerusalem .Read all your posts thrice over and your the real deal.Bless you pal and would love to hear some more of your tribulations.



Failing that I wouldn't half mind ruffling those gospel singers feathers.
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Just seen this. Thanks and yet...how do I put this? Ok, seeing as you posted those gospel singers...

I have found there to be a difference between using the intellect to try and understand a women so as to get her love...and dropping the intellect so as to open to a woman's love in a way that leads to a more intuitive understanding. The latter feels like it leads to a deeper intimacy and may even be called a process of maturation. Have I found this easy at times or even been really good at it? I'd say not but am happy to give it a go. Within this, sometimes I fall over my own arrogance, sometimes I want to run away like a scared little boy. Sometimes it feels like my world is falling apart and yet, if I can allow this, it is more like my world is being changed in a really good way. I find this to a beautiful, humbling experience. Does this make me 'special' somehow? No. And maybe that's the whole point - if anything it is like 'well, if I can come to open to this at times, then surely everyone else can too?' If people then choose to use religion as a language to share this experience, then great - if they choose not to, then that is wonderful too. Each to their own. And if this all sounds like bullshit to someone, well they are free to choose that also.
 
""People say my books are weird, but beyond the weirdness, there should be a better world. It’s just that we have to experience the weirdness before we get to the better world. That’s the fundamental structure of my stories: you have to go through the darkness, through the underground, before you get to the light." Haruki Murakami

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...ZL4N6fPQaYRIvBPEiT8-A_8tSqKuxhXtm7dzjfcVnGN0M
 
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