Religion

Irwell said:
Are you disrespecting my beliefs? I have a book which proves his existence.
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No, I gave you a photo proving his existence and yet you refused to acknowledge this. so who is being disrespectful here?. And, just as a friend,
he did say that those that don't listen to his rules in life will never know full pinkness after they die. They will end up in a room that
only has differing hues and shades of blue. Pretty terrifying right? Unless you are a City fan of course, in which case...
 
"BODHICHITTA is a Sanskrit word that means “noble or awakened heart.” It is said to be present in all beings. Just as butter is inherent in milk and oil is inherent in a sesame seed, this soft spot is inherent in you and me. It is said that in difficult times, it is only bodhichitta that heals. When inspiration has become hidden, when we feel ready to give up, this is the time when healing can be found in the tenderness of pain itself. This is the time to touch the genuine heart of bodhichitta. In the midst of loneliness, in the midst of fear, in the middle of feeling misunderstood and rejected is the heartbeat of all things, the genuine heart of sadness. Just as a jewel that has been buried in the earth for a million years is not discolored or harmed, in the same way this noble heart is not affected by all of our kicking and screaming. The jewel can be brought out into the light at any time, and it will glow as brilliantly as if nothing had ever happened. No matter how committed we are to unkindness, selfishness, or greed, the genuine heart of bodhichitta cannot be lost. It is here in all that lives, never marred and completely whole." Pema Chedron
 
1.618034 said:
Nails it.

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Dogs are closer to 'God' than much of what is called religion? Who'd have thought? Would be inclined to agree - especially if 'God' is the state of being that is left when one lets go of stress/tension/fears etc - the unconditional love that he speaks of. And if 'God' is offensive, then choose another word, right?
 
We are all capable of change and in his first book Genesis it has to be said he was a bit of a dodgy lad.But in his second book the new testament (Novum Testamentum) he seemed to have hit all the right notes by saving the blind making a cripple walk and feeding the poor with his fish and wine debacle and although I am not a prolific reader of the written word even I could feel his sense of atonement and attrition absolute. Was he genuinely sorry for his sins ? I really do think he was. Maybe a little too late as on his last night before capture and eventual arrest his sidekicks all fell asleep and abandoned him.

Gethsemane:

 
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Kinkladze 1 said:
Not this shite again. Get this thread pulled for fucks sake.
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I understand that a way of coming to know true relaxation and joy is not your cup of tea. And so you want to shut down this kind
of conversation.That's your choice - are others allowed to choose otherwise? I get that many may disagree with what I write - no problem -
but you seem no different from those that you accuse of being religious.
 
Irwell said:
Which mythical garden pixie do you believe in then?
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That’s the rub. I choose not to believe there’s an invisible man in the sky who chooses how my life goes. I also don’t believe that someone made the Red Sea part, and then a load of people walking through the middle of it on the sea bed. That can’t happen.

This guy arfur seems to just talk utter tripe, riddles and a lot of other guff. I’m being polite this morning by the way.!

I agree it’s not my place to ask for this shit thread to be pulled. It’s none of my business.
 
Kinkladze 1 said:
That’s the rub. I choose not to believe there’s an invisible man in the sky who chooses how my life goes. I also don’t believe that someone made the Red Sea part, and then a load of people walking through the middle of it on the sea bed. That can’t happen.

This guy arfur seems to just talk utter tripe, riddles and a lot of other guff. I’m being polite this morning by the way.!

I agree it’s not my place to ask for this shit thread to be pulled. It’s none of my business.
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I am sorry if I am unable to communicate with you in a way that is other than tripe, riddles and guff. I don't mean to cause you grief. Perhaps
all I am saying is that I find that when I can truly relax I can feel a joy inside. When I am stressed I can only only look outside to get happiness but this can bring a kind of dependance on things which is not so great. To say that 'one has to be religious to know relaxation and joy' is not the same
as saying 'When I come to know relaxation and joy, I find that some of what is written in religious texts can fit with this.' The relaxation and joy is
more important than arguments about religious dogma. Perhaps many churches have lost sight of this?

So whatever brings you relaxation and joy, then great, if that's what you want. Perhaps we all have our own different ways of finding this...
 
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