The owner of the green man has already ordered some rancid chickenHave we got the roundabout again or the Green man?
And was pulled up in the National.
I doubt Covid certificates or vaccine passports as they are erroneously called will be introduced even if the media have become convinced they will be. If hospitalisations and deaths are low/manageable thanks to the vaccine, then people will soon realise this is an absolute hassle and not worth the effort in terms of carrying around certification of vaccinations at all times or randomised testing. Looking at this test event, the logistics of such a system are just too much and onerous. I am inclined to agree with you that if Covid certificates are required for large events such as football matches, concerts, music festivals etc these become unviable enterprises.They describe this as a test event, which implies they are testing it as the model going forward. In that case football as a spectator sport is done. Are they seriously thinking people have the time, energy etc. to do this sort of nonsense week in and week out. Good luck to anybody willing to go through it, I’m one easily qualified in points terms who won’t be.
Crikey, I've never heard this story before. Almost as rarely told as Dave Whelan's about a broken leg in the FA Cup finalThe owner of the green man has already ordered some rancid chicken
from Edwards Meats PLC to prepare summert called " jerk chicken "
just incase someone called worsleweb turns up.
so,make of that what you will.
Yeah it was around that figure. I'd imagine we'll sell out but maybe it'll go to lower pointsThat's true, but we only took around 4/500 to CSKA Moscow back then?
I still think it will be a big ask to sell 2k tickets for this with all the faff involved (as well as the significant changes to our attitudes following on from the pandemic).
Sorry,Crikey, I've never heard this story before. Almost as rarely told as Dave Whelan's about a broken leg in the FA Cup final
Any mention of further stops for these trains pal? Macc/ Stockport ?I'm a train planner by trade & have had to time these trains this morning. I've no idea about ticketing arrangements. I'd assume these would come from the club.
I'm in agreement with you both that I don't see this as the start of a new order for football fans. You're exactly right that City and spurs had next to no input.I'd be inclined to agree to a significant extent but it's worth noting that with regards to this particular match, none of the fan groups from either club or the FSA have been consulted in any way by those in charge of organising this. An EFL tweet last week stated that they'd been in discussions with "relevant stakeholders" but obviously fans of City and Spurs aren't relevant in their eyes. We're just the bums not on seats. And I have it on relatively good authority that City and Spurs have had next to no input with regards to the restrictions being put in place so it would be unfair to pin any blame on the clubs.
Yeah, unlike others I'm certainly not knocking anyone for wanting to attend the game and the whole point in being part of a fan group is to try to influence things so that fans not only have a voice but are also able to enjoy their time at a match as much as possible. The former isn't possible in this instance because the horse has already bolted and the latter - IMO - won't be possible due to all the restrictions being put in place, so this one isn't for me and I will be watching it down my local instead. However, I still feel the point needs to be made that fans of either club have not been consulted and regardless of who is organising this test event, for the EFL to say they've spoken to relevant stakeholders when they haven't been in dialogue with either set of fans is out of order. If those attending aren't considered to be in the relevant stakeholder category then who is? To then hear that some people will be getting tickets for free and City fans are subject to restrictions that don't apply to any other group attending is nothing short of a piss-take. Surely to gauge things going forward and how things will be at football matches in a post-pandemic environment nobody attending should be subject to any restrictions apart from a negative test to gain entry and respecting general national guidelines around social distancing, masks, etc on their journey to and from the stadium, as well as inside.I'm in agreement with you both that I don't see this as the start of a new order for football fans. You're exactly right that City and spurs had next to no input.
Fan input of any depth was not sought because this is organised by DCMS and EFL as part of the government's Events Research Programme. Research is the key word; it's an experiment to collect data. We're guinea pigs more than the bums on seats. Fans are not relevant stakeholders in the design this experiment, they are "only" the experimental sample. Accommodating fan opinion on the experimental design would alter the integrity of the experiment.
Travel restrictions, the requirement for negative LFT 24 hours before the match, and the pre- and post-match PCR tests are so that the data sample from the match represents what most likely happened at the match and on the day.
How dangerous are public events? We don't know until we do these tests. Those attending Wembley should be given credit for helping get larger crowds back into stadia in the future, which is what all supporter groups want.
I do think it's taking the piss that ticket prices are so high for using us as guinea pigs, and I think the secure travel should be subsidised or even free.
Having said that, I'm going to Wembley regardless. I can't wait because I'm slowly dying without match days. And I'm a thoroughly decent bloke who wants to help the rest of you get back to the place we all love.
Apparently its Jerk Chicken on the menuJust applied corporate getting 265 tickets of the 1750 for local postcodes.
15%, what a piss take. That would be like having over 8k corporates at home which we don't so why are they getting such a big chunkJust applied corporate getting 265 tickets of the 1750 for local postcodes.
Any mention of further stops for these trains pal? Macc/ Stockport ?
Not much sign of nonsense there, casserole.I'm in agreement with you both that I don't see this as the start of a new order for football fans. You're exactly right that City and spurs had next to no input.
Fan input of any depth was not sought because this is organised by DCMS and EFL as part of the government's Events Research Programme. Research is the key word; it's an experiment to collect data. We're guinea pigs more than the bums on seats. Fans are not relevant stakeholders in the design this experiment, they are "only" the experimental sample. Accommodating fan opinion on the experimental design would alter the integrity of the experiment.
Travel restrictions, the requirement for negative LFT 24 hours before the match, and the pre- and post-match PCR tests are so that the data sample from the match represents what most likely happened at the match and on the day.
How dangerous are public events? We don't know until we do these tests. Those attending Wembley should be given credit for helping get larger crowds back into stadia in the future, which is what all supporter groups want.
I do think it's taking the piss that ticket prices are so high for using us as guinea pigs, and I think the secure travel should be subsidised or even free.
Having said that, I'm going to Wembley regardless. I can't wait because I'm slowly dying without match days. And I'm a thoroughly decent bloke who wants to help the rest of you get back to the place we all love.