Return of Supporters

M18CTID said:
I'm as far from a conspiracy theorist as you can get, but I can certainly see football fans - in particular away fans - being subject to more controls and the pandemic being used as an excuse for that. We (football fans) are already subjected to certain laws that would deemed utterly draconian for any other group of people and there was a groundswell to get some of those relaxed before Covid hit, but now there's a danger it could go the other way even when normality returns to all other walks of life.
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I'm sure we will, but I don't think the club particularly want the fan base to be any different to what we had pre covid. Think any rules will be government or game wide impossitions. As an example I think if the authorities allowed standing,or drinking in seats City would be the first in line in allowing both.
 
blueparrot said:
So why are they installing rail seating.To be honest not sure I want snarling drunken young men singing aggressive songs. Just standing fans singing is fine by me.
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Obviously there's no excuse for some of the behaviour you get at matches but the ever-increasing sanitisation of the game has sucked a lot of the enjoyment out of it for some people. If it was up to the police and the footballing authorities, we'd all be travelling directly to and from games in "Covid-secure" transport forever more. And damn you if you pass go and dare go for a pint anywhere en route!
 
blueparrot said:
I'm sure we will, but I don't think the club particularly want the fan base to be any different to what we had pre covid. Think any rules will be government or game wide impossitions. As an example I think if the authorities allowed standing,or drinking in seats City would be the first in line in allowing both.
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Yeah, I'm not talking specifically City here - just the authorities in general
 
I'd qualify comfortably but no intention of going. Actually thought it would be free given its a test event. Can't believe 4000 living in Brent with no affinity to the clubs are paying £50 for a ticket so would assume its only the fans getting stung.
Not much less than you'd pay for a league cup final ticket in normal times so deffo not paying that to sit in a 9/10 empty stadium and be made to jump through hoops
 
blueparrot said:
So why are they installing rail seating.To be honest not sure I want snarling drunken young men singing aggressive songs. Just standing fans singing is fine by me.
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nothing wrong with a little bit of aggression at the football.

if the songs are the way fans can get behind the team, dig the rivals a little bit, meanwhile everything is done safely, no violence and the songs aren't distastful (mocking death/race) then why not
 
They describe this as a test event, which implies they are testing it as the model going forward. In that case football as a spectator sport is done. Are they seriously thinking people have the time, energy etc. to do this sort of nonsense week in and week out. Good luck to anybody willing to go through it, I’m one easily qualified in points terms who won’t be.
 
blueparrot said:
So why are they installing rail seating.To be honest not sure I want snarling drunken young men singing aggressive songs. Just standing fans singing is fine by me.
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I’m exaggerating to make my point but many supporters who lament the loss of the passionate atmospheres of yesteryear put the blame on the way the football authorities have insidiously sought to regulate the fun out of football.
If a season without fans has taught us anything it’s that football without passion is no fun at all.
 
Gundog’s Gundog said:
I’m exaggerating to make my point but many supporters who lament the loss of the passionate atmospheres of yesteryear put the blame on the way the football authorities have insidiously sought to regulate the fun out of football.
If a season without fans has taught us anything it’s that football without passion is no fun at all.
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Yes it has taught us if we needed it, and I expect it's also taught the clubs and players too, and thirdly taught the TV companies.. Which is why I have no worries about new needless rules being imposed.
 
Whether or not said:
They describe this as a test event, which implies they are testing it as the model going forward.
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Not really, it's mainly to do with getting a measure of how transmissible the virus is in stadiums and also researching how stadium design can be adjusted to minimise that.

This is from the official pdf that can be downloaded from City's ticket info.

Airborne Infection Reduction through Building Operation and Design for SARS-CoV-2 (AIRBODS)
AIRBODS is a joint research programme between Loughborough University, University College London, the University of Cambridge, the University of Nottingham, the University of Sheffield and London South Bank University. AIRBODS is a UKRI-funded project which aims to quantify the risk of transmission of SARS-CoV-2 in buildings, and thereby offer guidance on the ventilation operation and future design of non-domestic buildings.
The team’s role in the Events Research Programme is to collect environmental data around the venue. We will do this by monitoring indoor air quality (measuring and recording CO2 levels, air temperature and relative humidity - moisture content) in the air at different locations around the venue, and relating this to the number of people present and microbiological analysis of surfaces around the venue. This data will be used to determine a Relative Exposure Index. This is not an absolute measure of the risk of transmission, but a measure of exposure relative to a benchmark case.
 
Can you make your own way via train? Not seen anywhere that you can't. No way from Piccadilly back to Macc after the game. No mention of any stops en route?
 
Maccblue said:
Can you make your own way via train? Not seen anywhere that you can't. No way from Piccadilly back to Macc after the game. No mention of any stops en route?
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No, only by the official chartered trains by the club. Needs to be selected with ticket purchase.
 
Maccblue said:
Can you make your own way via train? Not seen anywhere that you can't. No way from Piccadilly back to Macc after the game. No mention of any stops en route?
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When you buy the ticket you have to choose special train, coach or car as your means of travel. I suppose you could say you're going by car but get the service train down, not sure how they'd know differently?
 
Think City have done that as fairly as possible and done all they can, it's not them putting in all these rules. I had no intention whatsoever of going but the pricing is a complete farce. It shows they really dont give a shit about fans despite this year long insistence it's all about the fans etc etc. It's all about the money and the very first chance they've got under a pilot testing scheme they've shown their true face by charging those prices.

The world's on its arse, its debatable whether the tickets should be free but certainly no more than a £5-10 cover charge yet they've basically gone with the same prices as the final last year which is a complete disgrace.

This would be the perfect time for fans and fan groups to make a stand here, have fan groups, supporters clubs, people of influence from both clubs bound together and refuse to buy tickets at those prices, it's the easiest it will ever be to do that and it would certainly send a powerful message, they need fans more than ever and we won't take being ripped off anymore but sadly that's never going to happen and we will gladly go back to letting them price fans out of the game.
 
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The LFTs are not done in some sub-regions by testing centres, e.g. it gave Lancaster postcodes, they would have to travel Blackpool where the testing site closes at 3.45pm so not within 24 hours.

Then going down the m6/61 the next one is next to BWFC closes 1230 on Sat. I have found ones open to 8pm on Sat but there are not 1,750 slots and they are supposed to be for essential working and fill in your employer details.

It is like the French customs for Japanese videos in the 80s.
 
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