Richard Dunne {merged}

[Blue Mooner]

Re: To: City Re: Richard Dunne

I have mixed feelings on this.

Dunne has been here so long and the money, and therefore players, available to the club has changed so much in that time that there was always going to come a time where his place in the team was under threat and even his place at the club.

So, everyone knew that he would have to face up to and beat a massive challenge to still be part of this team in a couple of years time.

There were always going to be players coming in that would possibly be of a far higher standard. As good as Dunnie was for us I don't think even his biggest fan would say he was at the very top end of the scale of world centre backs.

Saying that, I'm not convinced that there is a huge amount of difference between him and Lescott. People seem to want to believe that the first dodgy season that Dunne has had in five years is indicative of him now being shit.

Lescott, imo, has loads to prove, is massively over rated in the press (never mind his price tag) and has become a bit of a media darling over the past few years. Yet, again imo, he has looked as far away from the likes of Ferdinand as Dunne has. Therefore, I don't think it is a shoe in at all that he will prove a massive improvement on Dunne. The price tag was the biggest joke in football transfer history but I guess that doesn't matter anymore. But time will tell how it goes. There's no reason he can't be a success.

The other side of this though is that - again - we see a lot of people desperate to belittle and almost vilify another player who was here pre takeover, call him shite and drag down his reputation now he is out of the door.

The amount of people calling he a dodgy player, not good enough, rubbish, snide, etc, is staggering. And it's not the first time. When it looked like Petrov was going there were dozens on here desperate to say how they always knew he was a tosser, a moaner and how he is shit now anyway. That seems the way of things with a lot of City fans at the moment. Service and ability count for little. Everyone who leaves is shit and bitter and everyone who arrives is miles better than them.

Of course, some arriving are miles better than some who have left but the disrespect shown to the likes of Dunne and Petrov, who have played out of their skin at times in the Premier League for City and are certainly nowhere near the end of their top flight career is most disturbing imo.

And, add to that, this sort of interview with Dunne, where another person who was here before the current management team is left feeling bitter and resentful about how they have been treated, is too much of a regular occurance for me to think it is not indicitive of something.

Richard Dunne and Joe Hart are not the sort to moan over nothing. Add in all the rumours last season, Cassell and his staff moving out, the belief that many have that Hughes acts like some sort of distant, aloof figure, the stories leaked to the press last year slagging the attitude of everyone who wasn't new and claiming the club was a joke, the almost manic like behaviour shown by the management to get their own Tafia running every area of the club and ship out virtually everyone who was here before last Sept, as if that makes them automatically a rubbish player/coach/administrator/whatever and it leaves just adds to the bad taste I have around the suspiscion that man management, the ability to do things the right way and the skill of being able to work with people who aren't your own cronies may be severely lacking in the City management at present.

Some will think that was the whole point of my post.

Maybe it was, I don't know. It's the first thing that struck me when I read that someone else thinks they have been treated roughly by a club in a position to be able not to do so and go about things the right way.

Anyway, I've no gripe with the onfield aspect this season, so my position is a lot different to how it was last season. That doesn't mean that I'm going to be happy that yet another "City's management shit on people" story is added to the weight of the other stories and rumours that have done the rounds since last year.

Well said sir!

I absolutely loved Richard Dunne as a player and a man he will go down in City history.

However, Hughes know it is his neck on the line if things don’t go well and there is no room for sentiment. Dunne, if rumours were to be believed, was one of the players that resisted Hughes approach in the early days of his regime and I feel he has suffered as a result of that - perhaps not realising Hughes strong nature and the strong backing he had of the board. In earlier regimes the board may have buckled to fan and player pressure.

Elano and Dunne felt they could de-stabilise the club and they are now gone – that sends a very strong and important message to the dressing room.

I look at one of the best managers in the business over at the Meccano and we have seen the way that the likes of Keane, Beckham have been dumped once they fail to deliver or don’t toe the line.

It’s sad that even when results are going well the Hughes obsessives look to feed on any scraps to de-stabilise his position.

I’m sorry to see Dunne go and I hope when he retires he can return to this club as another of our legends. He will live fondly in my memory but progress and change often means difficult decisions. I’m pleased we have a manager that doesn’t shirk them

 

[Happy Feet]

Re: To: City Re: Richard Dunne

Just over a season ago he was ready to desert a sinking ship and join Spurs, it was only a new improved contract given to him by Hughes that persuaded him to stay, dont kid youselves with talk of loyalty.

 

[Unknown_Genius]

Re: To: City Re: Richard Dunne

Its just the way I see it:

Dunne had to leave. I know that sounds harsh, but the club aim to be a top 4 club, and sadly Dunne is not a top 4 defender. He was poor last season, and that didn't look like stopping. In that game against Wolves, he looked off the pace, Jarvis easily got past him for that effort which Given saved. I know he has won the POTY 4 times in a row, and was quite deserved to win it, but look at his competitors. Corradi? Macken? There were some awful players and there wasnt much to choose by.

Dunne needs regular football if he wants to play for Ireland, particularly if they make it to the WC. If Dunne stayed, and couldnt get in the team, people will be moaning that its no way to treat a loyal servent, or what if a lack of football means no World Cup for him?

I appreciate all the guy is done, but this was a decision that had to be made. I don't see why Hughes is getting the brunt, are you all saying that a "world class manager" would have kept Dunne?

 

[bizzbo]

Re: To: City Re: Richard Dunne

Dunnie was comfortable here and didn't want to leave. That's why he is hurting AND that's why he had to go. Hughes was never going to give him the opportunity to coast along in the reserves as club captain.

He had all last season to make himself indispensable to the manager, let's not forget his form has generally been poor over the last 18 months. If you are proposing that 'Hughes can't/won't work with him', then the counter-argument is obvious. Maybe Dunne can't/won't work with Hughes.

It's all very well to say Hughes was found lacking during that time, but what does the story of last season say about Dunne's leadership?

He was rumoured to be moaning extensively in the early days of last season. The dressing room splits, the way the defence played in the first half of the season, the endless capitulations, the Forest game. He was captain throughout all of that.

I've never been impressed by him as a leader off the pitch... and a few very gutsy performances here and there didn't match the effort and leadership by example that the likes of Zabaleta, Kompany and Ireland pulled out of the bag on a regular basis.

I'll never forget what he's done for the club, but let's be realistic. Moving him on was an easy decision for the manager to make.

 

[dublin24]

Re: To: City Re: Richard Dunne

Transcript from Richard Dunne's interview on SSN for anyone who didn't catch it



Dunne:
"they told me they accepted an offer so I said 'okay, but what happens if I want to stay and fight for my place' and they just said...............well.......it's funny really....they just said, they needed the money (reporters laugh)

Reporter:
Have you got any bitterness Richard, after the all the time you've served at the club?

Dunne:
I'm not bitter, I mean, I really enjoyed it and I wish them all the success that they have. The fans have been fantastic to me there and they've been crying out for success for such a long time and now they seem like they're on the brink of it and I hope the club does really well. It's a really good club, enjoyable family club and I just hope they get what they deserve really. I went to a side who has similar ambitions, obviously we don't have the financial backing that MC have but we have a squad that is as good as most in the league so I feel we have a squad good enough to challenge at the top six

 

[Blucamp]

Re: Dunne City Legend or Not?

NO

Legend status is reserved for the likes of bell,lee,summerbee,trautmann,mercer etc

Dunney was a good servant for the club and nothing more!

 

[ifiwasarichfan]

Re: Dunne City Legend or Not?

In my eyes Dunne is a Legend of the Club.

This is the man who led us from where we were to a fully established Premiership Club and even when it started to go a little wrong under Keegan and Pearce with this Rock at the Heart of our Defence we never even "Flirted" with Relegation.

Many supporters of other Clubs at the time ( especially Liverpool ) felt that the Lad should have been in a better side than us.

For every own Goal there were three last ditch Goal Line clearances.

For every sending off there was a Game where an opposing superstar Forward spent ninety minutes in Richard's pocket.

No player won the player of the Year Award more.

Who has made more appearances for the Club since the Seventies ?? Anybody.


Enjoy the rest of your career Richard and start the Coaching Badges off. Yo will always be welcome here. This is your Home.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Re: Dunne City Legend or Not?

In my eyes Dunne is a Legend of the Club.

This is the man who led us from where we were to a fully established Premiership Club and even when it started to go a little wrong under Keegan and Pearce with this Rock at the Heart of our Defence we never even "Flirted" with Relegation.

Many supporters of other Clubs at the time ( especially Liverpool ) felt that the Lad should have been in a better side than us.

For every own Goal there were three last ditch Goal Line clearances.

For every sending off there was a Game where an opposing superstar Forward spent ninety minutes in Richard's pocket.

No player won the player of the Year Award more.

Who has made more appearances for the Club since the Seventies ?? Anybody.


Enjoy the rest of your career Richard and start the Coaching Badges off. Yo will always be welcome here. This is your Home.

dreaming, name one?

 

[dublin24]

Re: To: City Re: Richard Dunne

A quick 'Thank you' to the fans who supported him over the last 9 years, particularly when he was turning up drunk for training wouldn't have done any harm either![/quote]

He did say the fans have been to fantastic to him - posted the interview word for word up above have a look. I suppose only time will tell

 

[BlueMooner123]

Re: Dunne City Legend or Not?

i think a great servant is the wrong phrase to use. Legend maybe to big to use.
too me you have to 2 circles of legends. summerbee bell, etc and then in the other players like THE GOAT AND DUNNEY MONSTER....
Listening to his interview today i didnt like hearing he was forced out, if this is true then thats sad news. he didnt deserve that. hes had his ups and downs but had been the heart of the defence for countless years and deservedly player of the year 4 times in a row