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just use him as a makeweight for Lescott, i'm sure the Everton fans would love to see him back ;-) lol
In The Know said:Bluemoon115 said:Thats your opinion, that for some reason you feel the need to repeat over and over.
thats because it is a fact. He is garbage, always has been always will be. Its just in the past at times the rest of the team has been worse. Luckily we now have outgrown Dunne which we will see next season with the fact he will either be gone or playing at the regional athletics stadium.
Dunne has grown whilst he's been with us. The fans (apart from maybe last season) have been loyal to him over the years and he has tried to repay the support he has had by being loyal to the club. He may not be able to compete for a first team spot this season. He may not be the club captain, however he should be given the opportunity to fight for his place this term like many of the other first teamers from last season. If he isn't good enough and wants to leave why not address this in January when a players value is at it's peak?blueinsa said:In The Know said:thats because it is a fact. He is garbage, always has been always will be. Its just in the past at times the rest of the team has been worse. Luckily we now have outgrown Dunne which we will see next season with the fact he will either be gone or playing at the regional athletics stadium.
Its not a fact, its your opinion and a misguided one at that imo
For many years dunnie has shown us loyalty and has been without doubt one of our best players, this bourne out by him winning our player of the year award.
Is he good enough for where we want to go, maybe not but that doesnt mean he should be just thrown out of the club.
On his day he is still a formidable defender and will be a good squad player this year for us.
RobbieBrewer said:Without Dunne's steadfast defending during the Pearce era we would have almost certainly have gone down.
He saved us with goal line clearances and last-ditch tackles on far more than one occasion-but they always get forgotten about during discussions like this.
Whether he is now looked upon as "surplus to requirements" is open to debate-as are the positions of all the players not bought in by MH.
But to simply call him "crap" is both churlish and ungracious.
Some people have extremely short memories.
Richard Dunne has been a magnificent servant to MCFC.He deserves better.
podgy_rodge said:maybe he will just sit on the bench. love dunney to bits but i dont think he is up to the standard we need to finish top 4.
RobbieBrewer said:Without Dunne's steadfast defending during the Pearce era we would have almost certainly have gone down.
He saved us with goal line clearances and last-ditch tackles on far more than one occasion-but they always get forgotten about during discussions like this.
Whether he is now looked upon as "surplus to requirements" is open to debate-as are the positions of all the players not bought in by MH.
But to simply call him "crap" is both churlish and ungracious.
Some people have extremely short memories.
Richard Dunne has been a magnificent servant to MCFC.He deserves better.
In The Know said:RobbieBrewer said:Without Dunne's steadfast defending during the Pearce era we would have almost certainly have gone down.
He saved us with goal line clearances and last-ditch tackles on far more than one occasion-but they always get forgotten about during discussions like this.
Whether he is now looked upon as "surplus to requirements" is open to debate-as are the positions of all the players not bought in by MH.
But to simply call him "crap" is both churlish and ungracious.
Some people have extremely short memories.
Richard Dunne has been a magnificent servant to MCFC.He deserves better.
he deserves better ??????
How is that, he is one of the highest paid if not highest defender outside of the top 4 and his abilities certainly don't make him the best defender outside of the top 4. He was also given many chances by City when he was contiunally late for training through booze. Yes he has been a better player than what we have had in the past but that doesn't mean we have to keep paying him 50k a week for the hell of it. He will walk away from us a multi millionaire that is his loyalty payment.
Get rid.
Mike 1990 said:I think a lot of people forget how crucial the Dunne - Distin partnership was to us during the Keegan years. Agreed, Dunney is not the best defender in the premiership but I really don't think that he is as bad as people are making him out, a bad players doesn't win our player of the season award three times in a row.
I don't think that Dunne will be first choice next sesason but I certainly think that it would be a shame of he left the club, he is more than capable of providing good back up cover and keeping out first choice centre backs on their toes. Aswell as this I think that his experience and character could be in valuble when it comes to mentoring our young defenders such as Mee, Mcgivern etc.
In The Know said:Mike 1990 said:I think a lot of people forget how crucial the Dunne - Distin partnership was to us during the Keegan years. Agreed, Dunney is not the best defender in the premiership but I really don't think that he is as bad as people are making him out, a bad players doesn't win our player of the season award three times in a row.
I don't think that Dunne will be first choice next sesason but I certainly think that it would be a shame of he left the club, he is more than capable of providing good back up cover and keeping out first choice centre backs on their toes. Aswell as this I think that his experience and character could be in valuble when it comes to mentoring our young defenders such as Mee, Mcgivern etc.
The reason why Dunne got POY so many times was that he was competing against the likes of Paul Bosvelt, Michael Tarnat et al.
If we sign Lescott then Dunne is 4th choice at best, Onuoha is already better than Dunne so whats the point in keeping somebody on at 50k a week if we won't be using them. There is no room for sentiment if you want to win the league.
blueinsa said:In The Know said:The reason why Dunne got POY so many times was that he was competing against the likes of Paul Bosvelt, Michael Tarnat et al.
If we sign Lescott then Dunne is 4th choice at best, Onuoha is already better than Dunne so whats the point in keeping somebody on at 50k a week if we won't be using them. There is no room for sentiment if you want to win the league.
We will need a squad!
In The Know said:blueinsa said:We will need a squad!
Defenders capable of playing CB
Lescott
Toure
Onuoha
Richards
Kompany
Mee
McGivern.
I think we can afford to lose Dunne
blueinsa said:In The Know said:Defenders capable of playing CB
Lescott
Toure
Onuoha
Richards
Kompany
Mee
McGivern.
I think we can afford to lose Dunne
Lescott plays for Everton and i dont think Mee or McGivern are ready just yet, do you?
Like i said a squad is needed, its a long season with 2 domestic cup competitions and injuries and suspensions to think about.
Dunnie will not be first choice but will provide experienced cover imo
In The Know said:blueinsa said:Lescott plays for Everton and i dont think Mee or McGivern are ready just yet, do you?
Like i said a squad is needed, its a long season with 2 domestic cup competitions and injuries and suspensions to think about.
Dunnie will not be first choice but will provide experienced cover imo
It was said at the start of the debate it hinged on getting Lescott or another player, which we are obviously out for. Mee and McGiven might not be quite ready yet but 5 players to fill 2 positions is what you call a squad, what is your justification in 6 players.
For the record I would play Toure, Lescott, Kompany, Onuoha all ahead of Dunne in CB and Richards still has time to improve, which is why I'd prefer him too.
blueinsa said:In The Know said:It was said at the start of the debate it hinged on getting Lescott or another player, which we are obviously out for. Mee and McGiven might not be quite ready yet but 5 players to fill 2 positions is what you call a squad, what is your justification in 6 players.
For the record I would play Toure, Lescott, Kompany, Onuoha all ahead of Dunne in CB and Richards still has time to improve, which is why I'd prefer him too.
Its all about opinions fella.
Im saying keep him as a squad player