g.dog marshall.
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- 19 Aug 2008
- Messages
- 858
hate to see what would happen if there was a terrorist attack now,typical torries ripping the hell out of the police force.
brass neck said:manclad said:Sorry to appear to be a bit of a smartarse,but AH64 Apaches are fiited with a single barrel 30mm chain gun and not a multi barrel mini-gun.
Smart arse......no...worse than that......spotter!!!! Wheres your red arrows all in one suit, ive seen you at the wadington air show!!!
Rubyappeal said:JohnMaddocksAxe said:mammutly said:I think you're missing the point. You're right that they couldn't give a shit about goverment policy, but that's because like many people they have lost all faith in politicians. These are people who see for themselves that the rich people who caused the financial crisis are relatively unaffected by it, whereas the social state, the state that affects their day to day lives, is paying a high price. SureStart centres closing, benefit reviews getting harsher, disability payments vanishing, financial support for colllege students being axed, no jobs available for young people etc. Meanwhile, just around the corner from where they live, Mr Banker drives his new Bentlley and Mr MP has a posh flat and goes everywhere by taxi. Politically charged? What they are is reality charged.
I'd be the first to agree with the problems caused by a lot of the things mentioned. I also might be found at a protest that turned violent about such matters.
However, if you are viewing any of this and think it is remotely the same thing, then I suggest you look again.
You are attributing far more meaningful motivation to it. Don't try to intellectualise something that is as far removed from having an intellectual basis as possible. Even saying it is motivated by "the banker has a big car" is giving it far too much credibility. It has fuck all to do with that. It is scrotes trying it on. In fact, it is an insult to the working class to try to link this with any social justice agenda.
JMA.....I think you're seriously underestimating a lot of these kids.
There are many who understand the cuts,albeit at a basic level...but they do understand that in many cases it means that any way out they had is going to become even more difficult....EMA abolished,youth services scrapped,huge numbers of unemployed,stupid fees for college/uni.No hope breeds despair,and despair breeds trouble.
It's also about negative images and the people who are fuelling this resentment...many of the well known faces in the communities have gone in the cuts....the "buffer zones..the people the "street" kids trust.
I'm not condoning any of this ridiculous behaviour,but sadly,it was entirely predictable.
Maybe,just maybe....the government will look at the "big society" for the utter bollocks it is,and have a major rethink about funding and the strategy for the future.
The criminals and thugs should be brought to justice,but there are contributing factors for what has happened.There is no point anyone burying their heads in the sand...otherwise,as I've said for some thine,we will all be in for a long,hot summer.
MA.....I think you're seriously underestimating a lot of these kids.
There are many who understand the cuts,albeit at a basic level...but they do understand that in many cases it means that any way out they had is going to become even more difficult....EMA abolished,youth services scrapped,huge numbers of unemployed,stupid fees for college/uni.No hope breeds despair,and despair breeds trouble.
It's also about negative images and the people who are fuelling this resentment...many of the well known faces in the communities have gone in the cuts....the "buffer zones..the people the "street" kids trust.
I'm not condoning any of this ridiculous behaviour,but sadly,it was entirely predictable.
Maybe,just maybe....the government will look at the "big society" for the utter bollocks it is,and have a major rethink about funding and the strategy for the future.
The criminals and thugs should be brought to justice,but there are contributing factors for what has happened.There is no point anyone burying their heads in the sand...otherwise,as I've said for some thine,we will all be in for a long,hot summer.
kinkysleftfoot said:brass neck said:manclad said:Sorry to appear to be a bit of a smartarse,but AH64 Apaches are fiited with a single barrel 30mm chain gun and not a multi barrel mini-gun.
Smart arse......no...worse than that......spotter!!!! Wheres your red arrows all in one suit, ive seen you at the wadington air show!!!
Waddington!