Riots in Manchester city centre (not Salford)

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mancmackem said:
Moarrrrrrrrr of this please!
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Legend. I love it when I see normal folk stand up to these scumbags.
 
danburge82 said:
LongsightM13 said:
1.618034 said:
Exactly! Why are we inundated with migrants from eastern europe and Asia? Because they want to live in poverty? No. Because there are great opportunities for work and or training in this country. The opportunities on offer are there but these sub-human's aren't interested because it takes effort, it's boring, it's sad, it's easier to claim off the state, steal and sell. That's a life choice.

None of these fuckers are starving. But they think it's minimum living standards to have a huge TV an Xbox, PC, Blueray, iPod/iPhone, SKY subscription, latest trainers/watches/jeans... you name it they think it's their right to have all these things and don't care how they get it, so
long as it doesn't involve any work or responsibility. I don't have all those things because even though me and the mrs are both professionals, we can't afford it. They are low-life theiving scum. End of.

Arrest em, charge em, neuter em.



The fact that we all knew it was coming and the police are just stood off watching and waiting for the CCTV footage is pathetic and just encourages more to join in. Meanwhile the city centre burns.

This is really depressing.
Superb post.
The 'society made me bad', 'poverty made me steal' argument is lazy, patronising bullshit for people with no morals. Saw a lot of it growing up and it was all lies.
There are millions in the same boat who do not turn to criminality but who work hard to improve their lot.
Whatever happened to taking personal responsibility for your own choices and actions?
My mate runs his own car valeting business and he had to sack English lads because they didn't work hard enough, turned up pissed, turned up late, didn't show up at all.. so now employs Polish lads who all work hard and even turn up early and leave later!

Point proven. And everyone knows that this is true. That's why they come here, opportunities that the indigenous population just don't want because it's beneath them.

This hardcore of scumbags is growing with every generation and if they are allowed to get away with this now then it won't be long before this happens again.

And before anyone says that this has happened before... THIS has never happened before. This is different. This isn't "political".This isn't racial. This has nothing to with religion. This isn't about Police brutality. This isn't about poverty. This isn't about freedom. This is about the young criminal underclass of this country showing that they actually CAN do what they want. And that's why it's so fucking depressing!

It's about time that the decent majority stood up to these fuckers and literally put the manners on them. We can't expect or afford for the police to be out on the streets in the numbers we're seeing tonight... What happens tomorrow? What happens next week?

It's us versus them. Because that's exactly how they see it.
 
Bilboblue said:
johnmc said:
Bilboblue said:
Whilst I accept you have your point of view Jon.... if you cannot see the differences then I am astounded as you seem an intelligent bloke.

That man WAS moving, and the copper shoved him, forcefully, from behind with no notice. As per my first reply (which I think you ignored) that copper deservesd everything he gets.

If he was so innocent, why the lies and cover-ups in his and his colleagues statements?

Anyways, back on topic, I hope the police smash these wankers out of sight. And I live down south. (not in an affected area).

Would you wander through town tonight? If the police asked you to move would you refuse. He might not have being joining in the riot but he refused police orders. Therefore a shove is not out of line. He hardly battered him.

I have no idea why the cover up having seen the video. In my view it was not excessive.

And then you say smash the fuckers up. If someone dies as a result you would probably be one to call excessive force as in your eyes a shove constitutes this.

I worry about your ability to read whole posts Jon. I already said that guy WAS walking away.
It was only when he was shoved that he looked back and said something, then he started moving on again when told to, but that's not the real point here.
That copper was a shithouse, pushing a defenceless pissed up bloke from behind.

COMPLETELY different scenarios!!

These animals are doing this tonight because they know they can get away with it.

If I lived up there I would be out tomorrow with everyone else that was up for it.

I suggest you do too and stop posting to defend a THUG of a policeman.

-- Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:15 pm --

Blue Haze said:
I've seen the video. He was refusing to move away at a decent pace. Why was he there. Would you stand in the way of a police line. He had ample opportunity to move away. 100%

A shithouse for pushing a man away from the Police line in a riot situation?

Fuck it can't be arsed arguing about it. Even if it's different situations the point stands that a police officer is up for manslaughter for a push. Now whether that was right or wrong it will make any copper think before pushing or using any force for fear of landing in the dock.
 
I guess I've been a little suprised at the softly-softly approach on the streets, but if they get hundreds of convictions (esp the arsonists), then the right message will have got through to the target audience; we're adults in a mature democracy. These kids think might is right. But we don't do that in this country. We don't need to smash you to bits to punish you.
 
johnmc said:
Bilboblue said:
johnmc said:
Would you wander through town tonight? If the police asked you to move would you refuse. He might not have being joining in the riot but he refused police orders. Therefore a shove is not out of line. He hardly battered him.

I have no idea why the cover up having seen the video. In my view it was not excessive.

And then you say smash the fuckers up. If someone dies as a result you would probably be one to call excessive force as in your eyes a shove constitutes this.

I worry about your ability to read whole posts Jon. I already said that guy WAS walking away.
It was only when he was shoved that he looked back and said something, then he started moving on again when told to, but that's not the real point here.
That copper was a shithouse, pushing a defenceless pissed up bloke from behind.

COMPLETELY different scenarios!!

These animals are doing this tonight because they know they can get away with it.

If I lived up there I would be out tomorrow with everyone else that was up for it.

I suggest you do too and stop posting to defend a THUG of a policeman.

-- Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:15 pm --

Blue Haze said:
I've seen the video. He was refusing to move away at a decent pace. Why was he there. Would you stand in the way of a police line. He had ample opportunity to move away. 100%

A shithouse for pushing a man away from the Police line in a riot situation?

Fuck it can't be arsed arguing about it. Even if it's different situations the point stands that a police officer is up for manslaughter for a push. Now whether that was right or wrong it will make any copper think before pushing or using any force for fear of landing in the dock.


Let's agree to disagree John.
He had ample time for a sober person I agree :o).

Disagree (obviously) about that clouding another coppers mind in this situation though.

goodnight.
 
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