Robi

[Skip Donoghue]

while there is no doubting robinho's abilities i dont see him fitting into the side every week yesterday was a prime example, bellamy was much more effective on the left when robbi went off because of his work rate.
i can see robinho becoming a bit of an enigma if he does not add the work rate off the ball to his undoubted skill, bridge was exposed on the left in the second half and hughes got it bang on with the substitution
i struggle to see where robbi will fit in once tevez is fit and if bellamy carries on working for the team like he does, but it is a squad game so he will get his fair share of games but i am not sure if he will make the 1st eleven at the moment based on yesterdays performance

 

[Tricky_Trev]

The team that finished the Blackburn game should be our "away" team. Although the back 4 defended well, i think the midfield looked a bit ropey. It was playing Bellamy on the left instead of Robinho that saw us over the line in my opinion. Part of the problem was always that it appeared we only had Petrov to come in if we decided not to pick Robbie for away games, and Petrov is even more afraid of putting the graft in than Robinho. But Bellamy has solved that problem with the way he played yesterday. So it should be Bellers and SWP on either flank. Ade and Tevez up top, with Barry and Ireland in he middle. Then, at home, bring Robinho in for Bellamy and have Craig on the bench to turn a game with his pace. Robinho is a top-class player, but it's all about results and putting our away form right. In my opinion, with Bellamy on the left in most away games, we have the best possible chance of doing this. However, there are certain away games that would suit Robinho more. Arsenal away in particular due to the style of football they play. Under Martinez, Wigan are a changed side and no longer clog people, mainly due to Cattermole leaving, so i'd play Robbie there too. Spurs away would suit Robbie as they play attractive football. But for most of the other away games, i'd prefer Bellamy.

 

[allblues09]

while there is no doubting robinho's abilities i dont see him fitting into the side every week yesterday was a prime example, bellamy was much more effective on the left when robbi went off because of his work rate.
i can see robinho becoming a bit of an enigma if he does not add the work rate off the ball to his undoubted skill, bridge was exposed on the left in the second half and hughes got it bang on with the substitution
i struggle to see where robbi will fit in once tevez is fit and if bellamy carries on working for the team like he does, but it is a squad game so he will get his fair share of games but i am not sure if he will make the 1st eleven at the moment based on yesterdays performance

Are you trying to tell me that Bellamy "tracked back" to cover Bridge more than Robby? Not sure what you were watching. Barry covered that position all day, neither Robby nor Bellamy tracked back often, but that is not their jobs. It is Barry and Ireland's when he is playing in the position he played yesterday (De Jong's position).

 

[Greiver]

Ireland and Robinho both had quiet games. Stevie a bit less due to his superb goal. Ireland did some good defence work but I saw Barry pulling the weight in all honesty. Ireland made some good passes and some good runs that went unnoticed. Robinho did the same and drawed the defenders to him opening up the right side more. Robinho also had 2 amazing shots that were just unlucky to not have scored. They play different roles and are different types of players. Robinho is definately the more skilled but Ireland does seem to turn up more to away games. Our side is almost incomplete without them.

 

[Skip Donoghue]

while there is no doubting robinho's abilities i dont see him fitting into the side every week yesterday was a prime example, bellamy was much more effective on the left when robbi went off because of his work rate.
i can see robinho becoming a bit of an enigma if he does not add the work rate off the ball to his undoubted skill, bridge was exposed on the left in the second half and hughes got it bang on with the substitution
i struggle to see where robbi will fit in once tevez is fit and if bellamy carries on working for the team like he does, but it is a squad game so he will get his fair share of games but i am not sure if he will make the 1st eleven at the moment based on yesterdays performance

Are you trying to tell me that Bellamy "tracked back" to cover Bridge more than Robby? Not sure what you were watching. Barry covered that position all day, neither Robby nor Bellamy tracked back often, but that is not their jobs. It is Barry and Ireland's when he is playing in the position he played yesterday (De Jong's position).

wrong it is barry and irelands mainly barrys job to plug gaps that will appear when players are in advanced areas attacking, the wide players ie bellamy and robinho are there to make a 5 man midfield when deffending thus meaning it is there jobs to help out the full backs
barry job yesterday was to plug gaps when players were caught in advanced areas and also pick up the loose balls in midfield and start attacks this allows ireland and swp to get involved with the forward players ie bellamy, robbi and ade so mate dont no what game you were watching but if it wern't for the substitution being made at the time it was and bridge getting some cover in front of him it could have been a different outcome

 

[allblues09]

Are you trying to tell me that Bellamy "tracked back" to cover Bridge more than Robby? Not sure what you were watching. Barry covered that position all day, neither Robby nor Bellamy tracked back often, but that is not their jobs. It is Barry and Ireland's when he is playing in the position he played yesterday (De Jong's position).

wrong it is barry and irelands mainly barrys job to plug gaps that will appear when players are in advanced areas attacking, the wide players ie bellamy and robinho are there to make a 5 man midfield when deffending thus meaning it is there jobs to help out the full backs
barry job yesterday was to plug gaps when players were caught in advanced areas and also pick up the loose balls in midfield and start attacks this allows ireland and swp to get involved with the forward players ie bellamy, robbi and ade so mate dont no what game you were watching but if it wern't for the substitution being made at the time it was and bridge getting some cover in front of him it could have been a different outcome

Filling in the gaps, ie. covering for Bridge when he makes his forward runs. Or what I said.

And you thinking that we would have lost the game if the substitution had not been made is way over-the-top. We had the majority of possession and were no where close to looking like conceding a goal.

How where there any less gaps (as you call them) when Bellamy was in then when Robby was?

You sound like Fat Sam after the game.

 

[blue 1992]

Thought robinho was alright tbh.

 

[Astuteboy]

I didn't think he had a terrible game; looked a bit knackered as people have said, but he had a couple of good efforts and certainly worried Blackburn (thereby creating space for others) while he was on the pitch. At times he linked up very nicely with Ade as well, and that interplay will only improve given more games.

To start saying he shouldn't be picked for away games etc is very premature I think, given the new front players he's now working with. He's still a top, top player and I firmly believe we're a better side with him in it. Clearly, he's not ideal for the left wing in a 4-4-2 (he's just not an out and out winger like that), but I don't think that's the formation we'll always be playing.

 

[Skip Donoghue]

wrong it is barry and irelands mainly barrys job to plug gaps that will appear when players are in advanced areas attacking, the wide players ie bellamy and robinho are there to make a 5 man midfield when deffending thus meaning it is there jobs to help out the full backs
barry job yesterday was to plug gaps when players were caught in advanced areas and also pick up the loose balls in midfield and start attacks this allows ireland and swp to get involved with the forward players ie bellamy, robbi and ade so mate dont no what game you were watching but if it wern't for the substitution being made at the time it was and bridge getting some cover in front of him it could have been a different outcome

Filling in the gaps, ie. covering for Bridge when he makes his forward runs. Or what I said.

And you thinking that we would have lost the game if the substitution had not been made is way over-the-top. We had the majority of possession and were no where close to looking like conceding a goal.

How where there any less gaps (as you call them) when Bellamy was in then when Robby was?

You sound like Fat Sam after the game.

so why did hughes take off robbi then i will tell you lack of work rate when we did not have the ball somthing robbi has never had but bellamy has in spades and if you think blackburn were not in the game yesterday you are living in a dream world ask given he made two great saves and we were hitting them on the break in the end ie irelands goal not to mention the break away for ades goal
so you sound like the type who only watch what city do and not so much the oppositon then base your comments on this and this alone

 

[allblues09]

I didn't think he had a terrible game; looked a bit knackered as people have said, but he had a couple of good efforts and certainly worried Blackburn (thereby creating space for others) while he was on the pitch. At times he linked up very nicely with Ade as well, and that interplay will only improve given more games.

To start saying he shouldn't be picked for away games etc is very premature I think, given the new front players he's now working with. He's still a top, top player and I firmly believe we're a better side with him in it. Clearly, he's not ideal for the left wing in a 4-4-2 (he's just not an out and out winger like that), but I don't think that's the formation we'll always be playing.

That is a very astute post ;)