robin van persie (continued)

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Tony101 said:
stony said:
Tony101 said:
The difference between Nasri and RVP is very simple from business point of view.

nasri was bought for 15 million and was 24 years old.....letting him see out his contract at the age of 24 was never gonna happen.

RVP was bought for 2.75 million and they got 8 years from him. They can afford to see him out his contract if they dont get the right offer and they already bought 2 strikers. Van persie is a fantastic striker, but I really dont get this one man team nonsense as he had a team build around him last season. basically they all played to feed him and despite being top scorer he had by far more chances than any other striker in the league. The guy misses crazy amount of chances


That sounds very much like sour grapes, something Arsenal fans are good at. I saw a stat posted on here that Van Persie had created over 90 chances last season. He's not just about scoring.
Show me stats on how many chances he had last season. like i said i doubt any player had close to as many chances as he had

Oh you really are bitter. He finished top scorer and dragged Arsenal into Europe. If he comes here he will have players like Silva, Nasri and Yaya feeding him and he will score even more. Without him, Arsenal wouldn't have made top 4 #feederclub
 
stony said:
Tony101 said:
stony said:
That sounds very much like sour grapes, something Arsenal fans are good at. I saw a stat posted on here that Van Persie had created over 90 chances last season. He's not just about scoring.
Show me stats on how many chances he had last season. like i said i doubt any player had close to as many chances as he had

Oh you really are bitter. He finished top scorer and dragged Arsenal into Europe. If he comes here he will have players like Silva, Nasri and Yaya feeding him and he will score even more. Without him, Arsenal wouldn't have made top 4 #feederclub

arsenal fans should count themselves lucky, that A) RVP had an incredible season B) that roy hodgson played martin fullop against them (last game of the season), who basically let in 3 goals, otherwise no champs league, and half the fucking team would be off.
 
I think you guys are misunderstanding me here. im not disputing the idea that he would play with better players here. My point is the idea that he did everything on his own is wrong and he had plenty of service because all the service was aimed at him. Despite playing with better players here, he wont get as much service because the service will be far more evenly distributed. At Arsenal last season the whole game was to feed him. Dont mix what im saying and call me names
 
Tony101 said:
I think you guys are misunderstanding me here. im not disputing the idea that he would play with better players here. My point is the idea that he did everything on his own is wrong and he had plenty of service because all the service was aimed at him. Despite playing with better players here, he wont get as much service because the service will be far more evenly distributed. At Arsenal last season the whole game was to feed him. Dont mix what im saying and call me names

I know what your saying mate, he pretty much was a one man team, but top players don't go to other clubs and suddenly become background players. i don't think he will ever have another season like that again, or even an injury free one, which is why some on here are wary of getting him. The scary thing is, we missed shit loads of chances last year as well
 
RVP was the main focus of Arsenal's play last season. Not a controversial point surely?
 
Cheadle Blue said:
Tony101 said:
I think you guys are misunderstanding me here. im not disputing the idea that he would play with better players here. My point is the idea that he did everything on his own is wrong and he had plenty of service because all the service was aimed at him. Despite playing with better players here, he wont get as much service because the service will be far more evenly distributed. At Arsenal last season the whole game was to feed him. Dont mix what im saying and call me names

I know what your saying mate, he pretty much was a one man team, but top players don't go to other clubs and suddenly become background players. i don't think he will ever have another season like that again, or even an injury free one, which is why some on here are wary of getting him. The scary thing is, we missed shit loads of chances last year as well
I dont think he will have a better season either. But as someone said earlier....RVP is very good creator and even when he doesnt score, he set up his team mates better than any City striker imo. I think it will be tricky to keep tevez, balotelli, rvp and aguero happy though. You cant rotate every game and people are forgetting tevez was out alot of last season, so this problem didnt happen
 
I'm really not keen on rvp
I understand he was top goalscorer, and undoubtedly is a top player.
But I just think we should spend the extra cash and get someone younger and less injury prone.
As mentioned before, falcao would be phenomenal in our team.
Maybe he isn't an option, but If he is, I'd take him over rvp any day.
 
Tony101 said:
Cheadle Blue said:
Tony101 said:
I think you guys are misunderstanding me here. im not disputing the idea that he would play with better players here. My point is the idea that he did everything on his own is wrong and he had plenty of service because all the service was aimed at him. Despite playing with better players here, he wont get as much service because the service will be far more evenly distributed. At Arsenal last season the whole game was to feed him. Dont mix what im saying and call me names

I know what your saying mate, he pretty much was a one man team, but top players don't go to other clubs and suddenly become background players. i don't think he will ever have another season like that again, or even an injury free one, which is why some on here are wary of getting him. The scary thing is, we missed shit loads of chances last year as well
I dont think he will have a better season either. But as someone said earlier....RVP is very good creator and even when he doesnt score, he set up his team mates better than any City striker imo. I think it will be tricky to keep tevez, balotelli, rvp and aguero happy though. You cant rotate every game and people are forgetting tevez was out alot of last season, so this problem didnt happen

If you come to city now, you almost have to buy into the fact that you will be rested from time to time. Not many clubs could have the luxury of taking aguero off with 20 mins to go. There are 4 competitions to play in, plus city did play with 3 forwards on quite a few times at home last year. If we keep winning, no reasons for the players to moan. Its also an added kick up the arse for them, knowing if they don't play well, ballotelli will be on, and if he scores you could be sat on the bench for a few games
 
Tony101 said:
Cheadle Blue said:
Tony101 said:
I think you guys are misunderstanding me here. im not disputing the idea that he would play with better players here. My point is the idea that he did everything on his own is wrong and he had plenty of service because all the service was aimed at him. Despite playing with better players here, he wont get as much service because the service will be far more evenly distributed. At Arsenal last season the whole game was to feed him. Dont mix what im saying and call me names

I know what your saying mate, he pretty much was a one man team, but top players don't go to other clubs and suddenly become background players. i don't think he will ever have another season like that again, or even an injury free one, which is why some on here are wary of getting him. The scary thing is, we missed shit loads of chances last year as well
I dont think he will have a better season either. But as someone said earlier....RVP is very good creator and even when he doesnt score, he set up his team mates better than any City striker imo. I think it will be tricky to keep tevez, balotelli, rvp and aguero happy though. You cant rotate every game and people are forgetting tevez was out alot of last season, so this problem didnt happen
No chance City will start next season with 5 strikers.

RVP is a top quality finisher, but I don't think his all round game is as good as Aguero or Tevez. Tevez can play in midfield, or behind the front two and his vision and workrate is exceptional. Aguero doesn't have the workrate of Tevez but he is a great dribbler-something that RVP doesn't have.

Not seeking to diminsh RVP's game. He is an exceptional player, but so are City's existing strikers. I think the chances of City signing RVP are diminishing fast. Tevez has returned and is looking up for it, and with that in mind much of the impetus for signing RVP has gone. I can't see anyone at City showing much appetite for chasing the fee higher.

If I were Wenger I'd keep him. One season of RVP is worth more than £20m to Arsenal
 
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