robin van persie (continued)

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What an epic signing its gonna be

 

[moomba]

The most common sense thing we can do is let Adebayor go on a free as is reported in the Mirror today (I know it's only the Mirror) as as I said on her some time ago and got slated. Everybody wins from this scenario! Van Persie comes in, Aebayor goes back to Spurs on his existing wages subsidized by lack of £8m transfer fee, Mancini is delighted, Bacon Face is in despair, and we don't have to keep a player who we aren't going to use but do have to pay. I predict that this is what will happen.

Welcome to the board Mr Levy.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The most common sense thing we can do is let Adebayor go on a free as is reported in the Mirror today (I know it's only the Mirror) as as I said on her some time ago and got slated. Everybody wins from this scenario! Van Persie comes in, Aebayor goes back to Spurs on his existing wages subsidized by lack of £8m transfer fee, Mancini is delighted, Bacon Face is in despair, and we don't have to keep a player who we aren't going to use but do have to pay. I predict that this is what will happen.

You could probably do with going on this course, mate.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.naturaltraining.com/training/negotiation-skills/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.naturaltraining.com/training ... on-skills/</a>

 

[Bilboblue]

Le Arse could be in trouble early if they let RvP go: <a class="postlink" href="http://news.arseblog.com/2012/07/wenger-giroud-and-podolski-to-miss-start-of-season/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://news.arseblog.com/2012/07/wenger ... m=facebook</a>

If they are, do they have it about them to recover same as last season?

 

[summer of 69]

The most common sense thing we can do is let Adebayor go on a free as is reported in the Mirror today (I know it's only the Mirror) as as I said on her some time ago and got slated. Everybody wins from this scenario! Van Persie comes in, Aebayor goes back to Spurs on his existing wages subsidized by lack of £8m transfer fee, Mancini is delighted, Bacon Face is in despair, and we don't have to keep a player who we aren't going to use but do have to pay. I predict that this is what will happen.

You could probably do with going on this course, mate.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.naturaltraining.com/training/negotiation-skills/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.naturaltraining.com/training ... on-skills/</a>

So what do you suggest we do with Adebayor? Pay him for 2 years til his contract expires. or use him to broker the VP deal?

 

[Bilboblue]

The most common sense thing we can do is let Adebayor go on a free as is reported in the Mirror today (I know it's only the Mirror) as as I said on her some time ago and got slated. Everybody wins from this scenario! Van Persie comes in, Aebayor goes back to Spurs on his existing wages subsidized by lack of £8m transfer fee, Mancini is delighted, Bacon Face is in despair, and we don't have to keep a player who we aren't going to use but do have to pay. I predict that this is what will happen.

You could probably do with going on this course, mate.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.naturaltraining.com/training/negotiation-skills/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.naturaltraining.com/training ... on-skills/</a>

So what do you suggest we do with Adebayor? Pay him for 2 years til his contract expires. or use him to broker the VP deal?

I'd rather sell him abroad and subsidise his wages than give him to spuds for fuck all, they have money, they just want him for fuck all the tight fuckers.

 

[citytill1die84]

The most common sense thing we can do is let Adebayor go on a free as is reported in the Mirror today (I know it's only the Mirror) as as I said on her some time ago and got slated. Everybody wins from this scenario! Van Persie comes in, Aebayor goes back to Spurs on his existing wages subsidized by lack of £8m transfer fee, Mancini is delighted, Bacon Face is in despair, and we don't have to keep a player who we aren't going to use but do have to pay. I predict that this is what will happen.

You could probably do with going on this course, mate.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.naturaltraining.com/training/negotiation-skills/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.naturaltraining.com/training ... on-skills/</a>

So what do you suggest we do with Adebayor? Pay him for 2 years til his contract expires. or use him to broker the VP deal?

Put him out on loan again and let him do a job against the other chasing clubs.

 

[summer of 69]

You could probably do with going on this course, mate.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.naturaltraining.com/training/negotiation-skills/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.naturaltraining.com/training ... on-skills/</a>

So what do you suggest we do with Adebayor? Pay him for 2 years til his contract expires. or use him to broker the VP deal?

I'd rather sell him abroad and subsidise his wages than give him to spuds for fuck all, they have money, they just want him for fuck all the tight fuckers.

Fully appreciate what you say, but if it is the key to getting Van Persie as is Mancini's stated wish, oughtn't we to let Spuds have him? Yes, see what you're saying, but if the alternative is VP running out at the swamp next season, I think we should swallow our pride. Just my opinion. I am as much for wanting VP at City, as I am terrified of him going to United.

 

[dtc78]

The most common sense thing we can do is let Adebayor go on a free as is reported in the Mirror today (I know it's only the Mirror) as as I said on her some time ago and got slated. Everybody wins from this scenario! Van Persie comes in, Aebayor goes back to Spurs on his existing wages subsidized by lack of £8m transfer fee, Mancini is delighted, Bacon Face is in despair, and we don't have to keep a player who we aren't going to use but do have to pay. I predict that this is what will happen.

You could probably do with going on this course, mate.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.naturaltraining.com/training/negotiation-skills/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.naturaltraining.com/training ... on-skills/</a>

So what do you suggest we do with Adebayor? Pay him for 2 years til his contract expires. or use him to broker the VP deal?

Have him serving us piss in the 'fosters fast lane' of the east stand?

 

[taconinja]

So what do you suggest we do with Adebayor? Pay him for 2 years til his contract expires. or use him to broker the VP deal?

I'd rather sell him abroad and subsidise his wages than give him to spuds for fuck all, they have money, they just want him for fuck all the tight fuckers.

Fully appreciate what you say, but if it is the key to getting Van Persie as is Mancini's stated wish, oughtn't we to let Spuds have him? Yes, see what you're saying, but if the alternative is VP running out at the swamp next season, I think we should swallow our pride. Just my opinion. I am as much for wanting VP at City, as I am terrified of him going to United.

I believe if we let him go on a free, his entire wage packet counts against FFPR as it's considered fiscally irrresponsible. As is, his wages don't count. Let him sit on the bench if need be.

 

[M18CTID]

I'm beginning to think he might just do a u-turn and stay at Arsenal. If they get Cazorla then that'll be a great bit of business and it might be the signing that convinces RvP to stay and it's clear that Arsenal have managed this summer's transfer window far better than they did last year. The reported contract offer from Arsenal is £130,000 a week with a £5 million signing-on fee which works out at something like £155,000 a week assuming it's a 4 year contract. I honestly don't think that's a million miles off what us, United, and Juve are prepared to offer him.

One thing that muddies the waters on the above theory is that Arsenal have already signed 2 new strikers in Podolski and Giroud which indicates that they may well have accepted some months ago that van Persie was leaving.

 

[bluegonads]

an injury prone 30 yr old RVP isnt worth 30-odd million.
if you give Ade away and pay 25m upwards to sign RVP then its stupid money, especially when he has virtually no contract left to buy out.

 

[city chief is back]

Has there been any updates from TH yet?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

The most common sense thing we can do is let Adebayor go on a free as is reported in the Mirror today (I know it's only the Mirror) as as I said on her some time ago and got slated. Everybody wins from this scenario! Van Persie comes in, Aebayor goes back to Spurs on his existing wages subsidized by lack of £8m transfer fee, Mancini is delighted, Bacon Face is in despair, and we don't have to keep a player who we aren't going to use but do have to pay. I predict that this is what will happen.

You could probably do with going on this course, mate.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.naturaltraining.com/training/negotiation-skills/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.naturaltraining.com/training ... on-skills/</a>

So what do you suggest we do with Adebayor? Pay him for 2 years til his contract expires. or use him to broker the VP deal?

I suggest we hold our nerve. His wages will not count towards this season's FFP, meaning that we can afford to stick him with the kids for the next twelve months. It should be made clear to him that this is what will happen if he decides that his wages are more important to him than playing first team football.

On that basis the wages he will be able to command in twelve months time will have diminished considerably and there are no guarantees that anyone of note will be interested anyway after a year of not playing. Add to that the possibility of picking up an injury in the next year and you have a series of factors which will make him blink first.

Daniel Levy is a sharp cookie. I hope that whoever is calling the shots on this at City does not display the same lack of backbone that you suggested in your post. How this club is perceived on other transfers and more generally will not be assisted by throwing the towel in on Adebayor.

 

[Blootoof]

Why do City want RVP?

They can sign other strikers like Falcao,Cavani and Defoe who are all better and much much younger.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0sOJVem1HM[/youtube]

 

[BillyShears]

I suggest we hold our nerve. His wages will not count towards this season's FFP, meaning that we can afford to stick him with the kids for the next twelve months. It should be made clear to him that this is what will happen if he decides that his wages are more important to him than playing first team football.

On that basis the wages he will be able to command in twelve months time will have diminished considerably and there are no guarantees that anyone of note will be interested anyway after a year of not playing. Add to that the possibility of picking up an injury in the next year and you have a series of factors which will make him blink first.

Daniel Levy is a sharp cookie. I hope that whoever is calling the shots on this at City does not display the same lack of backbone that you suggested in your post. How this club is perceived on other transfers and more generally will not be assisted by throwing the towel in on Adebayor.

I'm not sure that this reading is entirely fair. In the case of a player who actively seeks a transfer away from the club as Carlos Tevez did, I agree that unless we get a deal which suits us, he should rot. But in the case of players such as Adebayor where the club decided within 12 months of signing them that they were surplus to requirements, the responsibility lies with us to pay the contract up to move the player on, when the contract we originally gave him is so prohibitively high that there's little chance of anyone else matching it. It is just my opinion, but Adebayor has done nothing wrong and nothing to warrant some of the things which are being said about him. He had a very good season with us, which included the awful incident during the ACON. The new gaffer decided he wanted to go in a different direction which is his prerogative. So the onus lies with the club to see players such as Adebayor right.

 

[gilly69]

I suggest we hold our nerve. His wages will not count towards this season's FFP, meaning that we can afford to stick him with the kids for the next twelve months. It should be made clear to him that this is what will happen if he decides that his wages are more important to him than playing first team football.

On that basis the wages he will be able to command in twelve months time will have diminished considerably and there are no guarantees that anyone of note will be interested anyway after a year of not playing. Add to that the possibility of picking up an injury in the next year and you have a series of factors which will make him blink first.

Daniel Levy is a sharp cookie. I hope that whoever is calling the shots on this at City does not display the same lack of backbone that you suggested in your post. How this club is perceived on other transfers and more generally will not be assisted by throwing the towel in on Adebayor.

I'm not sure that this reading is entirely fair. In the case of a player who actively seeks a transfer away from the club as Carlos Tevez did, I agree that unless we get a deal which suits us, he should rot. But in the case of players such as Adebayor where the club decided within 12 months of signing them that they were surplus to requirements, the responsibility lies with us to pay the contract up to move the player on, when the contract we originally gave him is so prohibitively high that there's little chance of anyone else matching it. It is just my opinion, but Adebayor has done nothing wrong and nothing to warrant some of the things which are being said about him. He had a very good season with us, which included the awful incident during the ACON. The new gaffer decided he wanted to go in a different direction which is his prerogative. So the onus lies with the club to see players such as Adebayor right.

So why does he say money isn't important, playing football is. hes got the chance to play football but he is letting money stop this from happening. If Adebayor was truthful & said Im greedy & want the money it wouldnt be as bad n here but as he is blatantly lying then he deserves all the abuse he gets & a hell of a lot more to boot

 

[BillyShears]

I suggest we hold our nerve. His wages will not count towards this season's FFP, meaning that we can afford to stick him with the kids for the next twelve months. It should be made clear to him that this is what will happen if he decides that his wages are more important to him than playing first team football.

On that basis the wages he will be able to command in twelve months time will have diminished considerably and there are no guarantees that anyone of note will be interested anyway after a year of not playing. Add to that the possibility of picking up an injury in the next year and you have a series of factors which will make him blink first.

Daniel Levy is a sharp cookie. I hope that whoever is calling the shots on this at City does not display the same lack of backbone that you suggested in your post. How this club is perceived on other transfers and more generally will not be assisted by throwing the towel in on Adebayor.

I'm not sure that this reading is entirely fair. In the case of a player who actively seeks a transfer away from the club as Carlos Tevez did, I agree that unless we get a deal which suits us, he should rot. But in the case of players such as Adebayor where the club decided within 12 months of signing them that they were surplus to requirements, the responsibility lies with us to pay the contract up to move the player on, when the contract we originally gave him is so prohibitively high that there's little chance of anyone else matching it. It is just my opinion, but Adebayor has done nothing wrong and nothing to warrant some of the things which are being said about him. He had a very good season with us, which included the awful incident during the ACON. The new gaffer decided he wanted to go in a different direction which is his prerogative. So the onus lies with the club to see players such as Adebayor right.

So why does he say money isn't important, playing football is. hes got the chance to play football but he is letting money stop this from happening. If Adebayor was truthful & said Im greedy & want the money it wouldnt be as bad n here but as he is blatantly lying then he deserves all the abuse he gets & a hell of a lot more to boot

I believe he has said openly that he will not leave City for less money than he is currently on. I don't see any lying involved there. I'm sure playing football is as important to him as my job is to me. But if my employer gave me a big contract then tried to move me on somewhere else without paying that contract up I would also dig my heels in and refuse to leave without a full settlement.

It's also worth remembering that outgoing negotiations are the same as incoming ones because they are ultimately about money. I wouldn't call any of the players we signed last summer greedy yet they are all probably earning more money at City than they would have done anywhere else. The Nasri negotiations are a good example of how players take as long as they possibly can to make sure they get the best deal they possibly can.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

I suggest we hold our nerve. His wages will not count towards this season's FFP, meaning that we can afford to stick him with the kids for the next twelve months. It should be made clear to him that this is what will happen if he decides that his wages are more important to him than playing first team football.

On that basis the wages he will be able to command in twelve months time will have diminished considerably and there are no guarantees that anyone of note will be interested anyway after a year of not playing. Add to that the possibility of picking up an injury in the next year and you have a series of factors which will make him blink first.

Daniel Levy is a sharp cookie. I hope that whoever is calling the shots on this at City does not display the same lack of backbone that you suggested in your post. How this club is perceived on other transfers and more generally will not be assisted by throwing the towel in on Adebayor.

I'm not sure that this reading is entirely fair. In the case of a player who actively seeks a transfer away from the club as Carlos Tevez did, I agree that unless we get a deal which suits us, he should rot. But in the case of players such as Adebayor where the club decided within 12 months of signing them that they were surplus to requirements, the responsibility lies with us to pay the contract up to move the player on, when the contract we originally gave him is so prohibitively high that there's little chance of anyone else matching it. It is just my opinion, but Adebayor has done nothing wrong and nothing to warrant some of the things which are being said about him. He had a very good season with us, which included the awful incident during the ACON. The new gaffer decided he wanted to go in a different direction which is his prerogative. So the onus lies with the club to see players such as Adebayor right.

The onus on the club is to abide by the terms of the contract and do what's in the best interests of City, not Adebayor. There is no compulsion on the club to play him (save for FIFA regulations which can be readily negotiated) and it should do what is best for itself. He is handsomely rewarded for playing football so being "fair" to him doesn't enter into it, if the best interests of City are at stake.

That is what I'm interested in, not how well he feels he's been treated by us. You, me and the club will be still here long after he's gone. Why should I give a second's thought to the sentiments of his exit interview?

 

[BringBackSwales]

I am getting confused as to which is the RVP thread and which is the Adebayor thread