Robinho [Merged]

[Balti]

If:

* he was played in his natural position and not on the left wing
* he publicly apologised for anything he has said which may have been uncomplimentary to his club/ manager
* he was prepared to accept that he plays on merit and not on reputation
* he could keep his big mouth shut
* he was prepared to give it a 100%
* the manager was prepared to give him a chance on this basis
...then fair enough give him a go.

Sadly that is one massive and probably totally unrealistic IF.

 

[markbmcfc]

Robinho is one of the best in the world when he has the freedom to play how he wants and where he likes. Any manager that expects Robinho to track back and make tackles is a fucking idiot that has no faith in he ability of his players whose job it is to do those tasks.

Im sick to death of this culture that attacking players are supposed to do the dirty jobs. I swear to god only 5 years ago flair players were there to do the glamour jobs, splitting defences in half, pulling defenders all over the place and scoring and assisting. Now they are expected to be master of all trades.

Robinho should be in this team and playing centrally behind our strikers. Let Tevez run back. If nine of our outfield players cant defend as a unit then we really are inept. We play with two, sometimes three holding midfielders as well as four defenders. Add the goalie on top and thats eight of our first team geared towards defending and yet we still expect players like Robbie to be back there. Its bullshit, inept, negative tactics.

i dont see anyone on here moaning when Bridge isnt pulling off stepovers, cutting inside and dragging opposition defenders across the box.

Nail on the bloody head.

Goes back to all this "Petrov doesnt track back" nonsense we've had for a few years. Some fans are tactically clueluess in terms of what is expected from players.

 

[Bigga]

One month of 'the Italian' wouldn't be enough to make someone's mind up, surely?

The embarrassment of being brought on, then hauled off though may have though. I'm not doubting his ability, but my concern is when we have games such as Blackpool away. I wouldn't put him anywhere near the pitch for that. Romours are that he was told he would only play once every 2 games suggesting home games only, and he wasn't happy about it. So what do you do?

I do believe there is a 'beach' in Blackpool...

 

[BurnCK]

Goes back to all this "Petrov doesnt track back" nonsense we've had for a few years. Some fans are tactically clueluess in terms of what is expected from players.

Rubbish. If you've got players like Bridge bombing forward (which he does alot), then you expect a bit of cover from your wingers. Seems tactically clueless to leave a big gap where your left back was....No-one is expecting them to become an extra defender, just provide the cover when needed.

 

[Failsworth_Blue]

Goes back to all this "Petrov doesnt track back" nonsense we've had for a few years. Some fans are tactically clueluess in terms of what is expected from players.

Rubbish. If you've got players like Bridge bombing forward (which he does alot), then you expect a bit of cover from your wingers. Seems tactically clueless to leave a big gap where your left back was....No-one is expecting them to become an extra defender, just provide the cover when needed.

For a full back Bridge does not bomb forward a lot, the problem is leaving him on a one on one situation means we're in trouble as he invites trouble by backing off. If say we play 4-5-1 do you expect the wingers to track back every time the other team as the ball?

 

[without a dream]

If he does come back I hope the idiots among us don't boo him, that really won't help anyone.

 

[BurnCK]

Rubbish. If you've got players like Bridge bombing forward (which he does alot), then you expect a bit of cover from your wingers. Seems tactically clueless to leave a big gap where your left back was....No-one is expecting them to become an extra defender, just provide the cover when needed.

For a full back Bridge does not bomb forward a lot, the problem is leaving him on a one on one situation means we're in trouble as he invites trouble by backing off. If say we play 4-5-1 do you expect the wingers to track back every time the other team as the ball?

No, but take for example when we played Spurs and Sylvinho was getting murdered by Lennon...a bit of help from Robinho would have gone a long way, but he didn't get any. You can't always be flair player waiting up front on your own, sometimes you have to do the dirty work...doesn't mean it's expected all game every game, but you have to be adaptable.

 

[mancitypj]

If:

* he was played in his natural position and not on the left wing
* he publicly apologised for anything he has said which may have been uncomplimentary to his club/ manager
* he was prepared to accept that he plays on merit and not on reputation
* he could keep his big mouth shut
* he was prepared to give it a 100%
* the manager was prepared to give him a chance on this basis
...then fair enough give him a go.

Sadly that is one massive and probably totally unrealistic IF.

I agree !

 

[markbmcfc]

Goes back to all this "Petrov doesnt track back" nonsense we've had for a few years. Some fans are tactically clueluess in terms of what is expected from players.

Rubbish. If you've got players like Bridge bombing forward (which he does alot), then you expect a bit of cover from your wingers. Seems tactically clueless to leave a big gap where your left back was....No-one is expecting them to become an extra defender, just provide the cover when needed.

Rubbish back at you.

My point was tracking back, not covering. The two are very different. If the full back overlaps, you expect the winger to fill in just in case there is a counter attack.

Tracking back is different, Robbie, Petrov etc hugged the half way line and they were criticised because they didnt get back to help out. That is not their job, as Svennis explained.

 

[Failsworth_Blue]

For a full back Bridge does not bomb forward a lot, the problem is leaving him on a one on one situation means we're in trouble as he invites trouble by backing off. If say we play 4-5-1 do you expect the wingers to track back every time the other team as the ball?

No, but take for example when we played Spurs and Sylvinho was getting murdered by Lennon...a bit of help from Robinho would have gone a long way, but he didn't get any. You can't always be flair player waiting up front on your own, sometimes you have to do the dirty work...doesn't mean it's expected all game every game, but you have to be adaptable.

Of course sometimes you have to a bit of dirty work and i find it ridiculous to suggest that Robinho never does any dirty work which some people seem to think when he has worked hard at times for us and got back but people expect him to do it too often and moan when he doesn't do it. Take for instance the 08/09 season away at Arsenal, he tracked back gave away a free kick in the corner flag and Adebayor scored from the free kick and people were asking what he's doing back there