Rodrygo

CΛL said:
Rather we sold Savinho, kept Echeverri personally. Don’t understand this deal.
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I believe the thinking is that - in Rodrygo - we'd have someone effective (and with a goalscoring threat) who can play on the right, left, or - if Haaland needs a rest or is injured - upfront.

This could negate Doku's ineffectiveness (I wouldn't see the point of him being here either, even if Savinho left & Rodrygo signed), allow Haaland not to have to play as many games (Marmoush can play on the left in those circumstances) & - wages apart - be done for minimal cost (and for someone not too different age wise).

We'd also probably be happier going into big games / CL games with Rodrygo that Savinho.

Thats just a mix of my point of view and what I believe the thinking to be, but I could be way off (I don't see the point in the Donnaruma transfer, which some do, unless we get rid of both Ederson & Ortega)
 
Oh yeah, follow up, as logic would dictate (and no need to be ITK for this) I think this will get done pretty much immediately after the Spurs game (both Savinho & Rodrygo).
 
Calv_from_the_frog said:
Oh yeah, follow up, as logic would dictate (and no need to be ITK for this) I think this will get done pretty much immediately after the Spurs game (both Savinho & Rodrygo).
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Given the huge difference between their (expected) wages, I'm not sure we can't wait to pay Rodrygo more than Rodri and Foden.
 
alexmcity said:
Given the huge difference between their (expected) wages, I'm not sure we can't wait to pay Rodrygo more than Rodri and Foden.
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Since Alonso's arrival at Real, Rodrygo's played 121 minutes of a possible 720. He was an unused substitute for their opener last night too, with Arda Güler & Franco Mastantuono being used from the bench ahead of him.

There's too much transfer noise surrounding Savinho, Ederson, Rodrygo & Donnarumma for the speculations to be transfer tittle tattle, but outgoings will dictate what happens. Since Hugo's arrival, there seems to be a tougher stance with our valuation of players.

It seems City are happy to go into the season with both Savinho & Ederson, but if either or both wish to leave, it'll be on City's terms & we have our alternatives lined up just in case.

I suppose it's evidence of our growing esteem in world football that a player considered the best keeper in the world, & a Real Madrid star, both seemingly want a move to Manchester City above any other club.

I agree with the club, in that I'd be happy for both Savinho & Ederson to remain. But if they were to leave, both Rodrygo & Donnarumma would be good shouts as replacements, the latter especially.

The only thing that makes me uncomfortable is the situation with James Trafford. I'm seriously impressed with his development, which will obviously be stunted if the 26 year old best keeper in the world arrives.

Some say competition for games between the sticks is a good thing, & that Trafford will just have to man up & step up. Others think James would develop further with the peace of mind of being our No 1 choice, plus the valuable experience he'll gain playing in major games in the process.

As for Rodrygo, he's the superior player when compared to Savinho at the present. However, Savinho is 3 years younger & has a higher ceiling imo. It also seems it's team Savinho driving the transfer to Spuds, so with that being the case, let's get the most we can, buy his replacement for the least we can & move on.
 
Dribble said:
Since Alonso's arrival at Real, Rodrygo's played 121 minutes of a possible 720. He was an unused substitute for their opener last night too, with Arda Güler & Franco Mastantuono being used from the bench ahead of him.

There's too much transfer noise surrounding Savinho, Ederson, Rodrygo & Donnarumma for the speculations to be transfer tittle tattle, but outgoings will dictate what happens. Since Hugo's arrival, there seems to be a tougher stance with our valuation of players.

It seems City are happy to go into the season with both Savinho & Ederson, but if either or both wish to leave, it'll be on City's terms & we have our alternatives lined up just in case.

I suppose it's evidence of our growing esteem in world football that a player considered the best keeper in the world, & a Real Madrid star, both seemingly want a move to Manchester City above any other club.

I agree with the club, in that I'd be happy for both Savinho & Ederson to remain. But if they were to leave, both Rodrygo & Donnarumma would be good shouts as replacements, the latter especially.

The only thing that makes me uncomfortable is the situation with James Trafford. I'm seriously impressed with his development, which will obviously be stunted if the 26 year old best keeper in the world arrives.

Some say competition for games between the sticks is a good thing, & that Trafford will just have to man up & step up. Others think James would develop further with the peace of mind of being our No 1 choice, plus the valuable experience he'll gain playing in major games in the process.

As for Rodrygo, he's the superior player when compared to Savinho at the present. However, Savinho is 3 years younger & has a higher ceiling imo. It also seems it's team Savinho driving the transfer to Spuds, so with that being the case, let's get the most we can, buy his replacement for the least we can & move on.
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I could have written that myself. Agree with everything you say.
 
alexmcity said:
Given the huge difference between their (expected) wages, I'm not sure we can't wait to pay Rodrygo more than Rodri and Foden.
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We've cut Walker, Grealish & De Bruyne off the wage bill, so - even with the players bought - should be able to sort it (especially as no-one was really playing for a big club).

Again, just MO.
 
Calv_from_the_frog said:
We've cut Walker, Grealish & De Bruyne off the wage bill, so - even with the players bought - should be able to sort it (especially as no-one was really playing for a big club).

Again, just MO.
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But we have added Marmoush and Reijnders, both on wages higher than Rodri's. We want to make Rodri's wages 300+k a week. Maybe Foden's too. Then we have several potential world class players in Cherki, Bobb, Khusa, Savinho, Doku, Gonzalez, RAN, etc.

It's not a trivial issue. When Soriano is doing the calculations he may be wondering whether the whole operation of replacing Savinho with Rodrygo makes *enough* sense.
 
alexmcity said:
But we have added Marmoush and Reijnders, both on wages higher than Rodri's. We want to make Rodri's wages 300+k a week. Maybe Foden's too. Then we have several potential world class players in Cherki, Bobb, Khusa, Savinho, Doku, Gonzalez, RAN, etc.

It's not a trivial issue. When Soriano is doing the calculations he may be wondering whether the whole operation of replacing Savinho with Rodrygo makes *enough* sense.
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Supporters can afford to be cavalier with their ideas on bringing in players / transfer fees etc, so anything goes when voicing their wishes/ideas.

But the management are the serious players in this game and take a much wider view of the financial aspects - thank goodness !

As boring as that may be for many on this forum .
 
You have to question why Real Madrid are so willing to let him go, they might lose players who then develop into stars but they dont often let players at the top of their game go. They dont even have an abundance of options either so there has to be questions asked there.
 
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