Roll call for 9 minute protest

melrose40yarder said:
At some point we are going to go like the other so called big clubs not winning for a few yrs.Who is going to fill the 60000 seats for them then.If it was all about winning then grounds would be empty.What did Bernstein say supporting our supporters who supported us through the dark days.I no longer enjoy home games as the demographic of the crowd has changed so much in the 50 yrs ive been going.
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I don't think the demographics of City's old crowd were any different to any other fanbase. It was largely white, working class and intensely loyal. Now football is much more popular and much more expensive squeezing traditional fans. I would prefer that we focus on capping / lowering prices rather than creating tension with other demographics
 
jrb said:
Maybe Pep can ask his mate why there are over 2000 empty seats tonight?
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And he will get his mate's point of view.
Then he could ask me for example and I would give him my point of view which is muddled by the plethora of reasons being given out here and elsewhere.
Then he could ask one of the people on here discussing those reasons and get another point of view.

That is all I meant. I am with the fans but, as always, try to be devils advocate and see all sides. Which is very difficult on this one I have to say. :-)
 
The "tourist" issue has been here since Mancini, nothing will change. They want people who see the Etihad as a theme park and spend shit loads of cash, not us normal people who at most get a pint at half time
 
pride in battle said:
NO its not, it's people moaning about everything, that's why people would be more onboard if it was ONE single topic, rather people jumping on suggesting a plethora of grievances.
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I do agree the message has got convoluted and that's despite my like of the 'Vianogo' pun. Whilst the protest should be more focussed on pricing as a whole as most of the other grievances are interrelated or sub-categories of it. I can't be too critical as people are actively trying to do something about it which is better than nothing at all.
 
Shirley said:
A little confused with your point, what stopped thousands of loyal fans from buying tickets?
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Nothing stopped them , however they were not prioritised in anyway and had to go into a lottery with anyone who had never even been to a game regardless of if they had been to 10 , 100 or 1000 themselves and many missed out due to the sheer number of people able to access tickets for the game. Completely wrong in my opinion.
 
mexico1970 said:
There's a LOT to moan about, and protesting isn't moaning it's protesting. The reason why the protest covers many topics is because there are a lot of topics to cover.

Some are just making an excuse to visibly not support it because it upsets them for whatever reason. But even if you don't support the gist of it you should be supporting blues who care about it.

There is some sly "I'm alright" shit going on here and you know it.
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The sly ‘I’m alright muppets’ will be more than happy to not pay the increased prices if the protest brings about a price freeze.
 
uwerosler28 said:
Nothing stopped them , however they were not prioritised in anyway and had to go into a lottery with anyone who had never even been to a game regardless of if they had been to 10 , 100 or 1000 themselves and many missed out due to the sheer number of people able to access tickets for the game. Completely wrong in my opinion.
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Scouse game - No chance
Tarquin game -No chance
Rag game- No chance
Madrid Game-No chance

Hey City fans let's make some noise at home to Leicester you can have up to 4 tickets each.

Ungrateful bastards.
 
thegoatsthegoat said:
Possibly, price being a big reason I imagine and goes back to pricing for all.
Thousands of legacy blues, without season tickets who want tickets for a Madrid type game either get priced out from them going to hospitality tickets, priced out in general or miss out because these third party sites sell a load of tickets in our end.
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The club sets the prices for match-day and season-ticket prices. There are 37,000 season ticket holders. Almost all match-day tickets are bought direct from City. I think the number of 3rd party sales are relatively minor.
 
TheGhost said:
The sly ‘I’m alright muppets’ will be more than happy to not pay the increased prices if the protest brings about a price freeze.
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I'm happy to pay an increase on my season ticket if it meant that individual match day tickets were lower and kids tickets even lower.
Just because I won't join in the protest doesn't mean I don't care about the issues being raised but I think the only way the club take real notice is if everyone boycotts food and drinks and buying stuff from the club owned store on match days.
I hope the protest goes well and I hope it has the desired effect but I honestly don't believe it will.
 
mexico1970 said:
Scouse game - No chance
Tarquin game -No chance
Rag game- No chance
Madrid Game-No chance

Hey City fans let's make some noise at home to Leicester you can have up to 4 tickets each.

Ungrateful bastards.
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IMO that’s City fans picking and choosing the games they attend. I’ve said before long gone are the days you didn’t miss a game.
 
mexico1970 said:
There's a LOT to moan about, and protesting isn't moaning it's protesting. The reason why the protest covers many topics is because there are a lot of topics to cover.

Some are just making an excuse to visibly not support it because it upsets them for whatever reason. But even if you don't support the gist of it you should be supporting blues who care about it.

There is some sly "I'm alright" shit going on here and you know it.
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Absolutely not, get a defined protest then yes, instead of this mish mash.
 
BertM19 said:
I am genuinely dead confused at the reactions from so many posters here about what they think the action should or shouldn't be, or what it should've been instead.

Some saying "9 minutes is not enough", some saying it's too much. Some saying "why don't they do banners", "they should do something outside the ground that doesn't obstruct the team", "this is the wrong time/match", "I'm waiting to see if my seasonticket goes up", or "it's only about viagogo there are bigger issues" etc.

From the very start of the season, groups like 1894 and the fans' foodbank have been fighting for better treatment of the City family as a whole. Before the first game of the season we had the atrocious disabled parking charges, that they fought against and made the club U-Turn.

Throughout the season we've seen things like Manchester based fans being called "1%" by the chief marketing officer, groups of people in Barca shirts at Anfield and then a week after the club promise it'll never happen again, we see a group of men in Real Mallorca colours at Ipswich! All this at a time when it's never been harder to get away tickets.

Weve then seen the disgraceful way the club has ignored open letters from all the fan groups on pricing, and left City Matters hanging for 7 weeks for a ticketing meeting they'd promised in 7 days. A meeting that only materialised after Thursday's viagogo announcement and the immediate backlash to that, caused or not.

So then the comments about the tactics of the protest. People saying why not banners? We did banners a year ago! 1894 put up a "RECORD PROFITS, RECORD PRICES, STOP EXPLOITING OUR LOYALTY" at home vs Arsenal after yet another price increase, what did the club do? Tear down the banner, chase the 1894 members down the concourse and took their accreditation. We've tried banners, the club control what gets in or out of the ground and they'll just get us banned.

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Some people have also said that it should be done outside the ground. Well the foodbank group have been doing banners outside the ground multiple times this season, and 1894 have held banners at away games, in solidarity with fans from across the country, in the #StopExploitingLoyalty campaign which has two main aims - reduce/freeze the cost of tickets, and protect Junior? OAP concession rates. We're any of you who are saying this protest needs to be outside at any of these displays? They were all shared on socials.

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In fact, the foodbank lot even went to Anfield with a banner and held it across the away end, for a solid 10minutes. The scousers have been supportive from the start, and they recently won a brilliant freeze in both STs and general admission. Liverpool also won a reduction in ticket prices back in 2016 when they did a concourse boycott, so who is to say these things don't work?

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City fans even got one up during the return fixture the other month, but the upstanding gentlemen at GMP tore it down for no apparent reason.

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And let's be honest, City fans haven't exactly got a big track record of protesting anything this millenium, so it makes sense to do something a bit smaller before we try anything like a walkout, which some people have called for here. If people are complaining about 9mins at kickoff, what makes you think we're ready to try a walkout when a match will already be underway?

The discontent this season has been massive, multifaceted, and really disappointing to experience. Knowing our own club doesn't listen, and largely doesn't even care, is depressing. I grew up with Junior Blues, thinking that it was one big family. That has eroded badly in recent years when it became clear that the ruthless chase of the profit margin came above all else. This protest is obviously not just about viagogo, it was clearly just the last straw for many supporters. Everyone can see it.

There are two options for protesting tomorrow. If you can't bear to miss 9mins of a game tomorrow (even to protect being able to afford to watch 90mins next season), then come and join us at 7pm by the Colin Bell stand. If you're not sure about it then come and talk to the organisers - who are just regular blues like all of us, who deeply care about this club.

We all have the option here to make a bit of a stand and make our voices heard, even if it may seem to no avail. I don't want to live in a world where we don't believe we can change it for the better. City fans boycotting the Community Shield in 2023 made the FA change a kickoff time for the first time in history. City fans doing a fundraiser for disabled fans this year made the club U-Turn on malicious parking charges. Football supporters united across the country in 2017 got the £30 away cap introduced. We can do things if we just try.

Please try and support in some way tomorrow, we're all doing this for the next generation of Blues who can't even get in the ground anymore.

Keep the faith. CTID.
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Very good.
I particularly like the idea, as mentioned in your post, of following Liverpool and doing a concourse boycott (adding a club shop boycott as well, whilst we’re at it) therefore buying nothing extra, whatsoever.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Very good.
I particularly like the idea, as mentioned in your post, of following Liverpool and doing a concourse boycott (adding a club shop boycott as well, whilst we’re at it) therefore buying nothing extra, whatsoever.
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That for me would be the perfect storm, but and this is a big but

It's getting to the point where the players are so far removed from the rank and file fans that they might as well not be in our heads either.
 
mexico1970 said:
There's a LOT to moan about, and protesting isn't moaning it's protesting. The reason why the protest covers many topics is because there are a lot of topics to cover.

Some are just making an excuse to visibly not support it because it upsets them for whatever reason. But even if you don't support the gist of it you should be supporting blues who care about it.

There is some sly "I'm alright" shit going on here and you know it.
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I know it's easy to say ignore him because I'm shit at following my own advice on that but it's worth noting that he's not offering up this viewpoint in anything like good faith due to the fact that he has a track record of forever trolling on threads like this.

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion of course but there seems to be a clique of people on this thread who are happy to anonymously spout off from behind their keyboards and not have the balls to say those same things in person to the people who will be protesting tonight. If those people were truly interested in finding out a bit more about what's going on instead of simply running off at the mouth and spouting vitriol, they would've read and digested the excellent post from @BertM19 that covers pretty much every aspect of the discontent amongst a growing number of fans. Or they may come over to the main entrance tonight and have a chat with some of the people who will be getting involved in order to better educate themselves. But certain people aren't interested in that one bit. They'll be happy to accept any price freeze/decrease that might come about as a result of this action though.
 
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