grim up north
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According to the soccer Saturday boys.
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According to the soccer Saturday boys.
kunaguero10
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I think the narrative going into the season is important. This summer, the narrative was that the previous season was so bad, we couldn't compromise in any way with the first team, and as such couldn't even take the risk of having Denayer in the squad, so have signed a top defender in his place. Similarly with Lopes, we have decided to pursue the Bundesliga player of the year, as he is deemed necessary to close what was a wide gap on Chelsea. Fortunately a move to 1 striker sees Iheanacho included it looks like.
However, had we come off the back of a double winning season, the narrative and perception would have been that it would have been ok to consolidate with our excellent squad, not needing to sign top players to improve the first team (as was the case both times we won the league) - these youth products would then have been adequate.
In fact, I'll go as far to say that if Lopes went back in time, and this was July 2012, he would have been promoted and we wouldn't have signed Scott Sinclair.
Unfortunately the previous season hasn't permitted time and allowances to these 3 promoted youngsters, hopefully this year will be so good that next season we can have more confidence in integrating young players, such as Denayer, Roberts, Fofana maybe even.
However, had we come off the back of a double winning season, the narrative and perception would have been that it would have been ok to consolidate with our excellent squad, not needing to sign top players to improve the first team (as was the case both times we won the league) - these youth products would then have been adequate.
In fact, I'll go as far to say that if Lopes went back in time, and this was July 2012, he would have been promoted and we wouldn't have signed Scott Sinclair.
Unfortunately the previous season hasn't permitted time and allowances to these 3 promoted youngsters, hopefully this year will be so good that next season we can have more confidence in integrating young players, such as Denayer, Roberts, Fofana maybe even.
richards30
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A shame but then again €10m a good fee.
The Light Was Yellow Sir
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We will get a chance to find out when we play Seville as they have Denis Suarez playing for them.How many of these best young players in the world have left us and become world beaters?
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richards30
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Well this will test anonymous credentials. ....reckons lopes is signing a new contract then going on loan so not a sale!
What folk like Damocles seem to forget when they proclaim the CFA is a 'laughing stock' is, Lopes joined City at what 15-16? Enjoyed fantastic facilities, facilities of which since have greatly improved made the first team squad on a few occassions, even started a cup semi. Earned a nice move to the top flight in France on loan and then on the back of that a reported £8/£9 million move to Monaco, all before he's 20. That sort of career from 15-19 sounds about as good as you can have to me, especially as I doubt Lopes is a City fan. Yes, it doesn't look like he's made the grade with us, but he's set for life and he's not 20 yet. I'm assuming he's signed a decent contract in Monaco so that should take him to 24/25.
Denayer is 20 with a very good 5 year deal at City. Learning off World class players and I assume playing with his national team captain is a dream. He's not 21 till next June, and looks set for a very good loan move. At worst he will earn a big transfer away from City at best a long career at City.
What Damocles et al forget, these young lads are not City fans, the are young lads who's goal is to become a professional footballer. I'm sure they'd love to play for City, but I'm also sure they'll be happy to use City's CFA to get them as far as possible in the game.
So as long as the CFA is seeing 'graduates' making multi million pound moves to top flight clubs, young kids will see how good the CFA is for your career.
If we are producing 3,4,5 players of the level of Lopes every couple of years then we're doing a fantastic job. If one in 20 academy 'stars' make it to the first team, the other 19 get good moves to top flight football, that to me is successful.
Most of these young lads don't dream of playing for City, they dream of playing football at the highest level. City are offering that opportunity.
As the power that be have said, it could take a good few years before we see real fruit from the CFA.
People get called flappers with regards to results, transfers transfer fees. Is it not 'flapping' if you call the CFA a 'laughing stock' because the first few half decent youth to come out of it haven't made it with City? We are all pretty much agree that Lopes & Denayer are the only ones from the CFA that are anywhere near close to the standard required, yet Lopes is sold, and we've failed.
If a £8 million move to Monaco is evidence of a waste of time, and Denayer getting a 5 year deal is the evidence, I'm sure we are doing something right.
To consider the CFA a laughing stock this early is perhaps the biggest case of 'flapping' this site has ever seen.
Give it a couple of years will you.
Denayer is 20 with a very good 5 year deal at City. Learning off World class players and I assume playing with his national team captain is a dream. He's not 21 till next June, and looks set for a very good loan move. At worst he will earn a big transfer away from City at best a long career at City.
What Damocles et al forget, these young lads are not City fans, the are young lads who's goal is to become a professional footballer. I'm sure they'd love to play for City, but I'm also sure they'll be happy to use City's CFA to get them as far as possible in the game.
So as long as the CFA is seeing 'graduates' making multi million pound moves to top flight clubs, young kids will see how good the CFA is for your career.
If we are producing 3,4,5 players of the level of Lopes every couple of years then we're doing a fantastic job. If one in 20 academy 'stars' make it to the first team, the other 19 get good moves to top flight football, that to me is successful.
Most of these young lads don't dream of playing for City, they dream of playing football at the highest level. City are offering that opportunity.
As the power that be have said, it could take a good few years before we see real fruit from the CFA.
People get called flappers with regards to results, transfers transfer fees. Is it not 'flapping' if you call the CFA a 'laughing stock' because the first few half decent youth to come out of it haven't made it with City? We are all pretty much agree that Lopes & Denayer are the only ones from the CFA that are anywhere near close to the standard required, yet Lopes is sold, and we've failed.
If a £8 million move to Monaco is evidence of a waste of time, and Denayer getting a 5 year deal is the evidence, I'm sure we are doing something right.
To consider the CFA a laughing stock this early is perhaps the biggest case of 'flapping' this site has ever seen.
Give it a couple of years will you.
Stretfordian_Blue
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Navas is 29, Nasri 28, Silva 29.
He could easily break through when he is 22/23, surprising he doesn't want to sign a new contract and hang about, with a couple of good loans under his belt.
He could easily break through when he is 22/23, surprising he doesn't want to sign a new contract and hang about, with a couple of good loans under his belt.
Stretfordian_Blue
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Well this will test anonymous credentials. ....reckons lopes is signing a new contract then going on loan so not a sale!
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