Rooney (MERGED)

can we have colleen working in the superstore as well....and maybe when Kai is older he can work on the car park......lets get the whole family in!

I actually like Rooney as a player, always rated him but he is not a world class player.....would he add to squad? YES Would he weaken rival? YES Do we need him to win league in future? NO

At this minute in time Rooney needs us more then we actually need him....lets all step back here and let our manager decide who we need....remember when we bought Marsh it ruined our season......
 
NewbBlue said:
Between Roque Santa Cruz and Adebayor, we've got more salary expense than Rooney would take. And those guys occupy the bench. Rooney could play striker. If he scores lots of goals alongside Tevez, great. If not, he rides the bench like those two, and they don't really do anything for us strategically.

What have we lost in buying him and inevitably offloading those two? Does anyone here want to face Mourinho at Trafford? I sure as fuck don't.
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Explain to me how we just offload two strikers who are under contract and currently earn at least double what anyone else would be willing to pay for them. Then explain how we can afford to pay half their wages for the remainder of their contracts, plus Wayne Rooney £200k a week, plus £10m a year in transfer fee over the next 5 years. Then explain to me how it would be good for Manchester City. These are really the only things I care about.

With the right argument, I'm sure I can be convinced it'll all be worthwhile, but telling me that the best reason for doing it is that it fucks up united really just doesn't cut the mustard.
 
From a Man City point of view surely it would be better if Rooney stayed at the rag camp, first it would cost them a bundle in wages that they can ill afford and take them nearer to the brink financially, secondly we would not have to try and accomodate him in our team and upset others, and thirdly they are going nowhere fast and he can stay there and sink without trace along with slur alex et al.
 
Dubai Blue said:
NewbBlue said:
Between Roque Santa Cruz and Adebayor, we've got more salary expense than Rooney would take. And those guys occupy the bench. Rooney could play striker. If he scores lots of goals alongside Tevez, great. If not, he rides the bench like those two, and they don't really do anything for us strategically.

What have we lost in buying him and inevitably offloading those two? Does anyone here want to face Mourinho at Trafford? I sure as fuck don't.
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Explain to me how we just offload two strikers who are under contract and currently earn at least double what anyone else would be willing to pay for them. Then explain how we can afford to pay half their wages for the remainder of their contracts, plus Wayne Rooney £200k a week, plus £10m a year in transfer fee over the next 5 years. Then explain to me how it would be good for Manchester City. These are really the only things I care about.

With the right argument, I'm sure I can be convinced it'll all be worthwhile, but telling me that the best reason for doing it is that it fucks up united really just doesn't cut the mustard.
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Santa Cruz would be the difficult one, he would have to get tired of sitting the bench. If he is determined to stay and watch, there's nothing he can do, but I doubt he's content with this forever. Maybe he is and I'm wrong.

Ade not so much. Real and Juve are reportedly interested in him and I doubt he is at all dissimilar to Robinho's situation. In Spain they can pay him less and he will still take home more due to taxes, as far as I know. We can even decrease his transfer fee to make up for any difference in wages.

That will get Santa Cruz's 17.5 million amortization plus Adebayor's 25 million amortization off the books. Rooney's contract was fatally constructed by United in an effort to save money, he has 18 months before he leaves on a Bosman. Between his current form and impaired contract, he is not worth 50 milllion. 30 million max, no one will pay more for a player with 15 months left by the time January rolls around. That would be a decrease in depreciation expense. Instead of amortizing 42.5 million, we will be amortizing 30 since the contract lives are the same.

From a salary standpoint, Adebayor's alone is around what? 160k? That's not far short of Rooney's wage demands. If we can get RSC off the books it would be less.

The trick will be getting RSC off the books, Ade will be easy.

edit- I just want to point out that I'm not sold on Rooney coming here. I'm just pointing out why Mancini might take a long hard look at this, and why it could be a net 0 financially under certain circumstances.
 
NewbBlue said:
Dubai Blue said:
Explain to me how we just offload two strikers who are under contract and currently earn at least double what anyone else would be willing to pay for them. Then explain how we can afford to pay half their wages for the remainder of their contracts, plus Wayne Rooney £200k a week, plus £10m a year in transfer fee over the next 5 years. Then explain to me how it would be good for Manchester City. These are really the only things I care about.

With the right argument, I'm sure I can be convinced it'll all be worthwhile, but telling me that the best reason for doing it is that it fucks up united really just doesn't cut the mustard.
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Santa Cruz would be the difficult one, he would have to get tired of sitting the bench. If he is determined to stay and watch, there's nothing he can do, but I doubt he's content with this forever. Maybe he is and I'm wrong.

Ade not so much. Real and Juve are reportedly interested in him and I doubt he is at all dissimilar to Robinho's situation. In Spain they can pay him less and he will still take home more due to taxes, as far as I know. We can even decrease his transfer fee to make up for any difference in wages.

That will get Santa Cruz's 17.5 million amortization plus Adebayor's 25 million amortization off the books. Rooney's contract was fatally constructed by United in an effort to save money, he has 18 months before he leaves on a Bosman. Between his current form and impaired contract, he is not worth 50 milllion. 30 million max, no one will pay more for a player with 15 months left by the time January rolls around. That would be a decrease in depreciation expense. Instead of amortizing 42.5 million, we will be amortizing 30 since the contract lives are the same.

From a salary standpoint, Adebayor's alone is around what? 160k? That's not far short of Rooney's wage demands. If we can get RSC off the books it would be less.

The trick will be getting RSC off the books, Ade will be easy.
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Fair play for trying, but I still don't want the scumbag anywhere near our club.
 
I think RSC and Ade both want out, and will probably take a pay cut to get it. I'd guess we would need to be a little relaxed about the kind of fee we want in order to facilitate the process.
 
Dubai Blue said:
NewbBlue said:
Santa Cruz would be the difficult one, he would have to get tired of sitting the bench. If he is determined to stay and watch, there's nothing he can do, but I doubt he's content with this forever. Maybe he is and I'm wrong.

Ade not so much. Real and Juve are reportedly interested in him and I doubt he is at all dissimilar to Robinho's situation. In Spain they can pay him less and he will still take home more due to taxes, as far as I know. We can even decrease his transfer fee to make up for any difference in wages.

That will get Santa Cruz's 17.5 million amortization plus Adebayor's 25 million amortization off the books. Rooney's contract was fatally constructed by United in an effort to save money, he has 18 months before he leaves on a Bosman. Between his current form and impaired contract, he is not worth 50 milllion. 30 million max, no one will pay more for a player with 15 months left by the time January rolls around. That would be a decrease in depreciation expense. Instead of amortizing 42.5 million, we will be amortizing 30 since the contract lives are the same.

From a salary standpoint, Adebayor's alone is around what? 160k? That's not far short of Rooney's wage demands. If we can get RSC off the books it would be less.

The trick will be getting RSC off the books, Ade will be easy.
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Fair play for trying, but I still don't want the scumbag anywhere near our club.
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Well, to be fair you did shoot a rather large hole in my theory. How to get RSC out.

I just want to point out that I'm not sold on Rooney coming here. It could completely disrupt our team chemistry and create a distraction that could send us tumbling from 2nd to 6th. Bollocked Cook for that Dzeko release clause fuckup, he's what we need. I trust the gaffer to determine that. I'm just pointing out why Mancini might take a long hard look at this, and why it could be a net 0 financially under certain circumstances.
 
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