Rotherham child abuse scandal

[vonkeynotvenky]

Reading that article makes me cross.

OK OK no need to go on a crusade about it.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

He's just thought of this without asking around after the tragedy has he? He's just thought hey! maybe they don't like the cross or my colour? I don't know what point you're making but you think he just thought that without any background to it?

The times is reputable enough to take seriously and he had to have a reason to say it and that's the honest truth. Even the undisputed king of identity politics David Lammy has commented on it.

Might be better if he quoted someone instead of using "there's a real risk that white and cross is confused with a Christian establishment organisation". Not, 'I've been told that', or that's what people have reported. It looks like he knows they should have acted more quickly and done a few things much better but, heh, it's nothing to do with me, I only earn £200k to head up this 'charity'!

 

[vonkeynotvenky]

Might be better if he quoted someone instead of using "there's a real risk that white and cross is confused with a Christian establishment organisation". Not, 'I've been told that', or that's what people have reported. It looks like he knows they should have acted more quickly and done a few things much better but, heh, it's nothing to do with me, I only earn £200k to head up this 'charity'!

It's typical liberal double speak but it probably ties in with a lot of the identity politics rhetoric that infests our political environment now. He still got the idea from somewhere maybe he was schooled by Naz Shah or David Lammy and just repeated what they said. But the cross is offensive? Where did that come from?

 

[I'm With Stupid]

It's typical liberal double speak but it probably ties in with a lot of the identity politics rhetoric that infests our political environment now. He still got the idea from somewhere maybe he was schooled by Naz Shah or David Lammy and just repeated what they said. But the cross is offensive? Where did that come from?

Well the Red Cross is called the Red Crescent in Muslim countries because they couldn't possibly accept charity from an organisation that has a cross as it's logo. So they've replaced what was essentially just the Swiss flag reversed with an explicitly religious symbol to please them. And obviously by them, I mean the idiots in charge of some of these countries. Like always, I'm sure ordinary people couldn't give a shit.

One of the main problems of liberalism is this habit of preempting offence where it might not even exist, and recognising when offence is just some big mouthed prick trying to manufacture a controversy (i.e. every case of religious offence ever).

 

[MillionMilesAway]

I didn't read it as "the cross is offensive".
I read it as people shied away from the Red Cross, because they associate the cross with Christian organisations with whom the people in question have no connection.
The "too white" is similar - that's a matter of ease of acceptance and blending in, the same as a bunch with local accents would be more likely to be accepted than a group of Jacob Rees-Moggs.

He's saying that part of helping out is making it easier for those being helped to accept the help. It's more of an observation of fact.

 

[vonkeynotvenky]

Well the Red Cross is called the Red Crescent in Muslim countries because they couldn't possibly accept charity from an organisation that has a cross as it's logo. So they've replaced what was essentially just the Swiss flag reversed with an explicitly religious symbol to please them. And obviously by them, I mean the idiots in charge of some of these countries. Like always, I'm sure ordinary people couldn't give a shit.

If I needed help I wouldn't care if the bringer of help was a male dressed in a tutu and a rag away shirt...the help shouldn't have to come in the form that least offends me :)

 

[vonkeynotvenky]

I didn't read it as "the cross is offensive".
I read it as people shied away from the Red Cross, because they associate the cross with Christian organisations with whom the people in question have no connection.
The "too white" is similar - that's a matter of ease of acceptance and blending in, the same as a bunch with local accents would be more likely to be accepted than a group of Jacob Rees-Moggs.

He's saying that part of helping out is making it easier for those being helped to accept the help. It's more of an observation of fact.

That#s some mental gymnastics there.

Shied away from the cross? This is Britain what's wrong with your logic playing semantics, shied away from?

And we should have a minority driven red cross? Well how's about more of them actually volunteering?

 

[I'm With Stupid]

If I needed help I wouldn't care if the bringer of help was a male dressed in a tutu and a rag away shirt...the help shouldn't have to come in the form that least offends me :)

And I'm sure none of the people at Great actually gave a shit either. It's so patronising to suggest that Muslim immigrants need to be protected from the horrors of getting help from a white person with a cross on their uniform. They must have real trouble when they go to hospital.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

That#s some mental gymnastics there.

Shied away from the cross? This is Britain what's wrong with your logic playing semantics, shied away from?

And we should have a minority driven red cross? Well how's about more of them actually volunteering?

No, there isn't.
The second part appears not to be any form of English I recognise.
The "minority driven red cross" is sheer invention.

 

[vonkeynotvenky]

And I'm sure none of the people at Great actually gave a shit either. It's so patronising to suggest that Muslim immigrants need to be protected from the horrors of getting help from a white person with a cross on their uniform. They must have real trouble when they go to hospital.

That's exactly it isn't it? I don't think they care one jot it's the virtue signalling liberals and the achingly embarrassing nodders and huffers who are to blame.