Rudd quits

Dave Ewing's Back 'eader said:
As long as we have the kind of politician we have, there will always be a shower of cunts. The toss up is which shower of cunts is the shower of cunts' shower of cunts! Find me a politician and I will find you a skunk!

Give the lady a fortnight or so and she'll make a reappearance as some minister or other. Football managers and politicians are very similar in that the more you fail the more you are guaranteed another job!
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True. There's something sinister abt this lot though. Pure fuckin evil.
 
The perfect fumble said:
Your yardstick being?
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Brandon Lewis his predecessor for one - I though Sajid did a far superior job. He also comes from very working class roots in Rochdale - if I am not mistaken his father was a bus driver and he told me an anecdote on one of the occasions i met him that his mother got hugely excited when he met Deidre off coronation street which he found rather amusing. He will do a great job. He also gave up a very successful career in finance to pursue politics. He is a very decent man.
 
worsleyweb said:
Sajid Javid is a great man. Been a fine Housing Minister.
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Obviously. If it wasn't for his tireless work the housing market would give an impression of being totally unregulated and homelessness might be a problem. We are blessed to have such a such a kind and brilliant person bravely bringing the "developer cartel" to order. Next PM ? .... ffs
 
worsleyweb said:
Brandon Lewis his predecessor for one - I though Sajid did a far superior job. He also comes from very working class roots in Rochdale - if I am not mistaken his father was a bus driver and he told me an anecdote on one of the occasions i met him that his mother got hugely excited when he met Deidre off coronation street which he found rather amusing. He will do a great job. He also gave up a very successful career in finance to pursue politics. He is a very decent man.
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I don't doubt he is all the things you state, but his character and upbringing, fascinating as they may be, are not the issue.

You stated he was...
a fine Housing Minister.
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So, what was "fine" about his performance as Housing Minister?

What leads you to this conclusion?...
I though Sajid did a far superior job.
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Evidence of his "superior job" might be helpful to your argument.
 
bellbuzzer said:
Obviously. If it wasn't for his tireless work the housing market would give an impression of being totally unregulated and homelessness might be a problem. We are blessed to have such a such a kind and brilliant person bravely bringing the "developer cartel" to order. Next PM ? .... ffs
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You are that stupid that you think a man who has held the position for less than 2 years has caused homelessness? Seriously?

He would make a great pm.
 
The perfect fumble said:
I don't doubt he is all the things you state, but his character and upbringing, fascinating as they may be, are not the issue.

You stated he was...


So, what was "fine" about his performance as Housing Minister?

What leads you to this conclusion...


Evidence of his "superior job" might be helpful to your argument.
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Well the 4 billion pound home building fund is not a bad start. His stewardship of the PRS build for Rent schemes has been excellent and his ongoing campaigning for affordable homes and fair Section 106 contributions for those "Greedy developers" should certainly be commended. He has also cut through huge amounts of Red Tape which Homes England used to be renowned for to allow the small developers and builders access to funding to help solve our housing crisis. I could go on. The start of his recent speech is all pretty much fact.


Thank you, and good morning everyone.

Half an hour ago, the official figures were published showing that the number of new homes in England increased by more than 217,000 last year.

That represents the highest level of net additions since the depths of the recession, and it’s the first time in almost a decade that the 200,000 milestone has been reached.

Yesterday, the Housing Minister Alok Sharma, he signed the papers that will allow housing associations to be reclassified as private sector organisations.

Freed from the shackles of public sector bureaucracy, associations will be able to concentrate on their core, crucial mission – building homes.

Later this morning, the Prime Minister will be in north London meeting with families living in new, high-quality social housing.

They’re just some of the families to benefit from last year’s 27% rise in the number of new affordable homes.

And they’ll soon be joined by many more thanks to the £9 billion that we’re investing in affordable housing.

Now, all that is just the tip of the iceberg.

Because this is a government that is getting things done.

A government of deeds, not words.

We’ve doubled the housing budget to deliver a million more homes, including hundreds of thousands of affordable ones.

We have reformed planning rules, leading to record levels of planning permissions being granted.

We have fought bureaucratic inertia and vested interests and we have freed up unprecedented levels of public sector land.

We’re providing hundreds of millions of pounds of finance for small and innovative builders to accelerate construction speeds.

And tens of thousands of derelict homes are being brought back into use…

The list goes on and on.

So yes, we’ve done a lot.

Do you not think that is commendable? Which bits of his stewardship do you not think have been a success? I would hazard you haven't a fucking clue and just because he wears blue you think it ok to criticize. In fact I would not hazard - I am certain of it.
 
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Back on topic, it sounds like her replacement will be announced very soon.
 
Ric said:
Back on topic, it sounds like her replacement will be announced very soon.
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Is it not on topic that it is likely to be Sajid Javid - who we are talking about???! Or am I missing something?
 
worsleyweb said:
Well the 4 billion pound home building fund is not a bad start. His stewardship of the PRS build for Rent schemes has been excellent and his ongoing campaigning for affordable homes and fair Section 106 contributions for those "Greedy developers" should certainly be commended. He has also cut through huge amounts of Red Tape which Homes England used to be renowned for to allow the small developers and builders access to funding to help solve our housing crisis. I could go on. The start of his recent speech is all pretty much fact.


Thank you, and good morning everyone.

Half an hour ago, the official figures were published showing that the number of new homes in England increased by more than 217,000 last year.

That represents the highest level of net additions since the depths of the recession, and it’s the first time in almost a decade that the 200,000 milestone has been reached.

Yesterday, the Housing Minister Alok Sharma, he signed the papers that will allow housing associations to be reclassified as private sector organisations.

Freed from the shackles of public sector bureaucracy, associations will be able to concentrate on their core, crucial mission – building homes.

Later this morning, the Prime Minister will be in north London meeting with families living in new, high-quality social housing.

They’re just some of the families to benefit from last year’s 27% rise in the number of new affordable homes.

And they’ll soon be joined by many more thanks to the £9 billion that we’re investing in affordable housing.

Now, all that is just the tip of the iceberg.

Because this is a government that is getting things done.

A government of deeds, not words.

We’ve doubled the housing budget to deliver a million more homes, including hundreds of thousands of affordable ones.

We have reformed planning rules, leading to record levels of planning permissions being granted.

We have fought bureaucratic inertia and vested interests and we have freed up unprecedented levels of public sector land.

We’re providing hundreds of millions of pounds of finance for small and innovative builders to accelerate construction speeds.

And tens of thousands of derelict homes are being brought back into use…

The list goes on and on.

So yes, we’ve done a lot.

Do you not think that is commendable? Which bits of his stewardship do you not think have been a success? I would hazard you haven't a fucking clue and just because he wears blue you think it ok to criticize. In fact I would not hazard - I am certain of it.
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You are confusing pledges, good intentions and activity with effect.

The Tory government will not solve the housing crises, because they have no intention of doing so. Milestones of 200,000 this or 217,000 that, in isolation, are meaningless.

In any problem solving you lay out what the problem is, put simply what level of house building do we need to solve the housing crises, how long will it take to build, how much will it cost, who pays for it, what do we build, where do we build and who builds it.

It's called a plan for housing, we don't have one, so all this activity might dent the problem but little else, it's noises off. The government can't be seen to do nothing, so it must be seen to do something.

No one believes that anything this government is doing comes close to solving this problem.
 
The perfect fumble said:
You are confusing pledges, good intentions and activity with effect.

The Tory government will not solve the housing crises, because they have no intention of doing so. Milestones of 200,000 this or 217,000 that, in isolation, are meaningless.

In any problem solving you lay out what the problem is, put simply what level of house building do we need to solve the housing crises, how long will it take to build, how much will it cost, who pays for it, what do we build, where do we build and who builds it.

It's called a plan for housing, we don't have one, so all this activity might dent the problem but little else, it's noises off. The government can't be seen to do nothing, so it must be seen to do something.

No one believes that anything this government is doing comes close to solving this problem.
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Everything you have just written is just waffling shit. Complete and utter unintelligent nonsense. We don't have a plan for housing? I have a hard copy of it on my desk!

As I said you would vote for pig if it wore red.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...oken_housing_market_-_print_ready_version.pdf

Theres the plan you say does not exist. I am sorry but you have just completely shown yourself up on a subject you have no knowledge of.

Anyway I will get in trouble for diverting the subject again soon as a diversionary tactic as I have proven you wrong. He will make a great Home Secretary if chosen.
 
worsleyweb said:
Everything you have just written is just waffling shit. Complete and utter unintelligent nonsense. We don't have a plan for housing? I have a hard copy of it on my desk!

As I said you would vote for pig if it wore red.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...oken_housing_market_-_print_ready_version.pdf

Theres the plan you say does not exist. I am sorry but you have just completely shown yourself up on a subject you have no knowledge of.
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Stop abusing people and keep on topic.
 
The blue phantom said:
Stop abusing people and keep on topic.
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The topic is about a home secretary being replaced - this man was suggested as a new one. indeed he is 3-1 favourite to replace her. I made an innocent comment that he would do a good job and the usual suspects started spouting. He was attacked and I put my case for why he has done a good job across in his current position. That's all. Not my fault people will just spout utter nonsense as they are that entrenched in their views. Can you point to where I abused anyone? I just pointed out that they had spoken utter nonsense and provided some facts that were not responded to adequately.
 
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worsleyweb said:
I think this is widely acknowledged and I am on steering committee for Manchester. it is far more complex than just providing a place to stay.

This is a good read on it.

link to follow!
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Don't know you and not sure what you do but the amount of time spent on bluemoon by someone who is on the steering committee of such a big issue, no wonder it remains such a big issue.
 
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