Rudd quits

Don't know you and not sure what you do but the amount of time spent on bluemoon by someone who is on the steering committee of such a big issue, no wonder it remains such a big issue.

I develop sky scrapers apartment schemes and mixed use commercial developments at present throughout the North West. I am passionate about seeing homelessness eradicated in Manchester and currently have 3 ex homeless people working on my sites. I can assure you I give the matter my full attention.
 
Bollocks, saw the thread title and was hoping it was Alyson, not Amber.

Ah well, this is just as good.
 
At what price level is housing considered "affordable"? For those millions on zero hour contracts, or the national minimum wage, even a 50% cut in the average house price would not qualify for a mortgage.
"Vested interest" is a broad church, on one side you have those who gain financially by ever-increasing property costs i.e. land-bank owners and their share-holders, landlords, builders, recipients of inherited property and estate agents. On the other side, who else has a vested interest in pushing housing costs higher, as the article
insinuates, who and why? No tory housing minister would contemplate "rocking the boat" by actually causing a lowering of house prices, let alone surviving such a reversal of historic tory policy. Affordable adequate housing is so fundamental to a modern country it should be estranged from party politics, not a bargaining chip, same goes for health and education. Sadly our fptp system ensures it will never happen
 
Everything you have just written is just waffling shit. Complete and utter unintelligent nonsense. We don't have a plan for housing? I have a hard copy of it on my desk!

As I said you would vote for pig if it wore red.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...oken_housing_market_-_print_ready_version.pdf

Theres the plan you say does not exist. I am sorry but you have just completely shown yourself up on a subject you have no knowledge of.

Anyway I will get in trouble for diverting the subject again soon as a diversionary tactic as I have proven you wrong. He will make a great Home Secretary if chosen.

I know about this, in fact the green belt field outside my house is designated for housing though it is unlikely to be developed, there has been much talk about this both locally and nationally, but the figures for actual builds, assuming the "best" scenario are hopelessly inadequate. No one believes that this "plan" is anything other than "need to be seen to do something" bullshit.
 
At what price level is housing considered "affordable"? For those millions on zero hour contracts, or the national minimum wage, even a 50% cut in the average house price would not qualify for a mortgage.
"Vested interest" is a broad church, on one side you have those who gain financially by ever-increasing property costs i.e. land-bank owners and their share-holders, landlords, builders, recipients of inherited property and estate agents. On the other side, who else has a vested interest in pushing housing costs higher, as the article
insinuates, who and why? No tory housing minister would contemplate "rocking the boat" by actually causing a lowering of house prices, let alone surviving such a reversal of historic tory policy. Affordable adequate housing is so fundamental to a modern country it should be estranged from party politics, not a bargaining chip, same goes for health and education. Sadly our fptp system ensures it will never happen

Good post - Net immigration is having a huge impact on house prices also. Don't need to have a racist label thrown at me for that - it doesn't matter if the people moving to the uk are green yellow black or white - we only have a limited amount of housing stock and a capability to build so much. Supply and demand is therefore impacting on housing costs. This is a huge driver. Also quite righty the government have clipped the wings of the Buy to Letters (myself included). From memory the impact on housing levels caused by immigration over 15 years is 11%. I stand to be corrected on the extra number as I said it is from memory. I would be fully supportive of a mass "social house building programme"

I truly feel for young people in regards to housing affordability.
 
I know about this, in fact the green belt field outside my house is designated for housing though it is unlikely to be developed, there has been much talk about this both locally and nationally, but the figures for actual builds, assuming the "best" scenario are hopelessly inadequate. No one believes that this "plan" is anything other than "need to be seen to do something" bullshit.

I don't wish to insult you again but other than building more homes and more affordable homes which they are doing what do you want then to magically do? I do not get your point. Who is this no one you refer to?

How many homes a year do you think can be built? Do we have tradesman capable of building more than 200,000? Are you aware of the governments drive for modular build methods to aid the problem?

Trying to get back on topic - In my strong and informed opinion he has done a good job, seems a great man I believe will be a great Home Secretary. I tell you what - how about you give him a chance?
 
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I don't wish to insult you again but other than building more homes and more affordable homes which they are doing what do you want then to magically do? I do not get your point. Who is this no one you refer to?

How many homes a year do you think can be built? Do we have tradesman capable of building more than 200,000? Are you aware of the governments drive for modular build methods to aid the problem?

Theresa May's plan to tackle housing crisis dismissed savaged by senior Tories: 'Nonsense'....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ail-britain-speech-tory-warning-a8240061.html

General election 2017: Tory housing plan 'paid from existing budget'....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39911569

Tory backlash against Theresa May's housing measures begins...

http://www.cityam.com/281655/tory-backlash-against-theresa-mays-housing-measures-begins

As expected, all smoke and mirrors.
 
The topic is about a home secretary being replaced - this man was suggested as a new one. indeed he is 3-1 favourite to replace her. I made an innocent comment that he would do a good job and the usual suspects started spouting. He was attacked and I put my case for why he has done a good job across in his current position. That's all. Not my fault people will just spout utter nonsense as they are that entrenched in their views. Can you point to where I abused anyone? I just pointed out that they had spoken utter nonsense and provided some facts that were not responded to adequately.

Twas ever thus. And in the case of "the usual suspects", it's ALWAYS on party political lines. Labour = good, Tory = bad, irrespective of the merits or any particular situation.
 
Theresa May's plan to tackle housing crisis dismissed savaged by senior Tories: 'Nonsense'....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ail-britain-speech-tory-warning-a8240061.html

General election 2017: Tory housing plan 'paid from existing budget'....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39911569

Tory backlash against Theresa May's housing measures begins...

http://www.cityam.com/281655/tory-backlash-against-theresa-mays-housing-measures-begins

As expected, all smoke and mirrors.

You have not got a clue - so you go on line - find 3 negative articles and use a stupid phrase. As suspected you are utterly clueless on this subject and would vote for a pig in Red. Can see why Chippy despairs with you now.
 
You are confusing pledges, good intentions and activity with effect.

The Tory government will not solve the housing crises, because they have no intention of doing so. Milestones of 200,000 this or 217,000 that, in isolation, are meaningless.

In any problem solving you lay out what the problem is, put simply what level of house building do we need to solve the housing crises, how long will it take to build, how much will it cost, who pays for it, what do we build, where do we build and who builds it.

It's called a plan for housing, we don't have one, so all this activity might dent the problem but little else, it's noises off. The government can't be seen to do nothing, so it must be seen to do something.

No one believes that anything this government is doing comes close to solving this problem.

''Freed from the shackles of public sector bureaucracy..''

Things like rules and regulations on safety for example.
 
''Freed from the shackles of public sector bureaucracy..''

Things like rules and regulations on safety for example.

You think that relates to Health and Safety at work? Do you honestly?

Are you aware of what you have just implied?

Do you think Mr Javid just says go and build that house - hurry up and don't wear your hard hat because we need houses quicker?

I honestly despair.
 
Yeah because on non EU immigration which we do control we are doing such a bang up job the Home Sec was obliged to resign.


What makes anyone think that Post Brexit .....

1) Illegal immigrants will stop arriving?
2) People from the commonwealth will stop arriving?


Cos Group4Security (Border Force)are doing such a wonderful job at the moment..
 
A very Tory decision to give the job to a minority in the hope it’ll all blow over by doing so.
 
Theresa May's plan to tackle housing crisis dismissed savaged by senior Tories: 'Nonsense'....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ail-britain-speech-tory-warning-a8240061.html

General election 2017: Tory housing plan 'paid from existing budget'....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39911569

Tory backlash against Theresa May's housing measures begins...

http://www.cityam.com/281655/tory-backlash-against-theresa-mays-housing-measures-begins

As expected, all smoke and mirrors.

Quality stuff fumble.
 

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