Rugby World Cup 2011

[Shadz69]

Brian Moore pointing out that previous decisions in THIS WC have been called very differently. Every single pundit on ITV & Talksport calling the red as a wrong call, the only voices in favour of it appear to be the Irish, bitter?

And the French, but quelle surprise there.

Shame about the kicks though, could have won it in spite of the wanker refereeing.

All panellists talked up Wales and at full time only George Hook still felt it was red but this was the only negative other than their kicking.

 

[BimboBob]

Thank fuck that's all over. The countries media can go back to not being welsh and we get to focus on football. Lovely, lovely football.

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Thank fuck that's all over. The countries media can go back to not being welsh and we get to focus on football. Lovely, lovely football.

ah yes because it was lovely having to put up with unpatriotic club supporters, players and staff for England's recent match wasn't it?

Nice that the build up to Anfield and Rooneygate were put aside this morning for people who actually give a damn about their country and achieve more than they are expected to.

Now all we get is Anfield and something will happen that will completely overshadow anything good we do today in the media apu, can't fucking wait.<br /><br />-- Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:17 am --<br /><br />

Brian Moore pointing out that previous decisions in THIS WC have been called very differently. Every single pundit on ITV & Talksport calling the red as a wrong call, the only voices in favour of it appear to be the Irish, bitter?

And the French, but quelle surprise there.

Shame about the kicks though, could have won it in spite of the wanker refereeing.

and of course theres no possibility of bias on the side of itv pundits? And in fact their is only one of the Irish pundits adamant that it's a red card... And in my opinion he's right. It's dangerous play, refs have been told to crack down on it.

And I have been rooting for Wales from the start too, can't stand the French so no bitterness at all on my part

I think an England former number 8 and a SA legend can hardly be accused of bias.

If he'd followed through, then yeah red card, but in the same way somebody makes a poor challenge in footy, unless the ref is a buffoon, which Alain Rolland has proven over the years that he is, then you give a yellow and accept the mitigating circumstances.

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

Thank fuck that's all over. The countries media can go back to not being welsh and we get to focus on football. Lovely, lovely football.

I detect a definite undercurrent of bitterness here,Bob.
Have you ever had your heart broken by some temptress from Tenby?
Or failed to find a thrill in Rhyl?

 

[depps]

Thank fuck that's all over. The countries media can go back to not being welsh and we get to focus on football. Lovely, lovely football.

ah yes because it was lovely having to put up with unpatriotic club supporters, players and staff for England's recent match wasn't it?

Nice that the build up to Anfield and Rooneygate were put aside this morning for people who actually give a damn about their country and achieve more than they are expected to.

Now all we get is Anfield and something will happen that will completely overshadow anything good we do today in the media apu, can't fucking wait.

-- Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:17 am --

Brian Moore pointing out that previous decisions in THIS WC have been called very differently. Every single pundit on ITV & Talksport calling the red as a wrong call, the only voices in favour of it appear to be the Irish, bitter?

And the French, but quelle surprise there.

Shame about the kicks though, could have won it in spite of the wanker refereeing.

and of course theres no possibility of bias on the side of itv pundits? And in fact their is only one of the Irish pundits adamant that it's a red card... And in my opinion he's right. It's dangerous play, refs have been told to crack down on it.

And I have been rooting for Wales from the start too, can't stand the French so no bitterness at all on my part

I think an England former number 8 and a SA legend can hardly be accused of bias.

If he'd followed through, then yeah red card, but in the same way somebody makes a poor challenge in footy, unless the ref is a buffoon, which Alain Rolland has proven over the years that he is, then you give a yellow and accept the mitigating circumstances.

no, a decent footy ref will send a player off for reckless challenge whether the player is injured or not.

If the French player had left the stadium in an ambulance would we still be arguing about this?

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

Thank fuck that's all over. The countries media can go back to not being welsh and we get to focus on football. Lovely, lovely football.

ah yes because it was lovely having to put up with unpatriotic club supporters, players and staff for England's recent match wasn't it?

Nice that the build up to Anfield and Rooneygate were put aside this morning for people who actually give a damn about their country and achieve more than they are expected to.

Now all we get is Anfield and something will happen that will completely overshadow anything good we do today in the media apu, can't fucking wait.

-- Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:17 am --

and of course theres no possibility of bias on the side of itv pundits? And in fact their is only one of the Irish pundits adamant that it's a red card... And in my opinion he's right. It's dangerous play, refs have been told to crack down on it.

And I have been rooting for Wales from the start too, can't stand the French so no bitterness at all on my part

I think an England former number 8 and a SA legend can hardly be accused of bias.

If he'd followed through, then yeah red card, but in the same way somebody makes a poor challenge in footy, unless the ref is a buffoon, which Alain Rolland has proven over the years that he is, then you give a yellow and accept the mitigating circumstances.

no, a decent footy ref will send a player off for reckless challenge whether the player is injured or not.

If the French player had left the stadium in an ambulance would we still be arguing about this?

yes, the same way the media villified De Jong for a perfectly fair challenge that caused Ben Arfa to break his leg.

Rooney didn't get sent off for his pre-meditated elbow on McCarthy, and there's countless other incidents that ridicule your argument.

Not to mention that Warbuton wasn't reckless, he was just over eager, the mismatch in strength caused a further imbalance and it was careless, I don't care if Clerc had broken his neck however unfortunate it would have been it's not relevant to the incident.

Not to mention that yellow and red cards in football don't mean the same as in rugby, there's no in between in football, there is in rugby and for a good reason, exactly the kind of thing Warburton did, careless and a bit over eager, let him have 10 minutes in the bin to calm down.

Rolland, as per usual made a rugby match about him rather than the rugby, though Wales only have themselves to blame for missing those simple kicks.

 

[Lucky Toma]

Thank fuck that's all over. The countries media can go back to not being welsh and we get to focus on football. Lovely, lovely football.

I detect a definite undercurrent of bitterness here,Bob.
Have you ever had your heart broken by some temptress from Tenby?
Or failed to find a thrill in Rhyl?

Haha I reckon the girl Sam Fox ran off with was called Cerys. :)

 

[nijinsky's fetlocks]

Thank fuck that's all over. The countries media can go back to not being welsh and we get to focus on football. Lovely, lovely football.

ah yes because it was lovely having to put up with unpatriotic club supporters, players and staff for England's recent match wasn't it?

Nice that the build up to Anfield and Rooneygate were put aside this morning for people who actually give a damn about their country and achieve more than they are expected to.

Now all we get is Anfield and something will happen that will completely overshadow anything good we do today in the media apu, can't fucking wait.

-- Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:17 am --

and of course theres no possibility of bias on the side of itv pundits? And in fact their is only one of the Irish pundits adamant that it's a red card... And in my opinion he's right. It's dangerous play, refs have been told to crack down on it.

And I have been rooting for Wales from the start too, can't stand the French so no bitterness at all on my part

I think an England former number 8 and a SA legend can hardly be accused of bias.

If he'd followed through, then yeah red card, but in the same way somebody makes a poor challenge in footy, unless the ref is a buffoon, which Alain Rolland has proven over the years that he is, then you give a yellow and accept the mitigating circumstances.

no, a decent footy ref will send a player off for reckless challenge whether the player is injured or not.

If the French player had left the stadium in an ambulance would we still be arguing about this?

But he didn't,did he?
So your point has no relevance.
Nobody is saying that the challenge was legal,just that the punishment was unduly harsh,as there was clearly no malicious intent.
I have yet to hear any pundit agree with the sending off decision,and most of them are ex internationals who aren't Welsh.
Most of them think that the referee is a nob who cost Wales the game.
And they are right.
If this had been O'Driscoll sent off at Croke Park by an English ref for the same offence,I wonder how many of our Irish forumites would come on here to praise the official?

 

[JoeMercer'sWay]

ah yes because it was lovely having to put up with unpatriotic club supporters, players and staff for England's recent match wasn't it?

Nice that the build up to Anfield and Rooneygate were put aside this morning for people who actually give a damn about their country and achieve more than they are expected to.

Now all we get is Anfield and something will happen that will completely overshadow anything good we do today in the media apu, can't fucking wait.

-- Sat Oct 15, 2011 11:17 am --



I think an England former number 8 and a SA legend can hardly be accused of bias.

If he'd followed through, then yeah red card, but in the same way somebody makes a poor challenge in footy, unless the ref is a buffoon, which Alain Rolland has proven over the years that he is, then you give a yellow and accept the mitigating circumstances.

no, a decent footy ref will send a player off for reckless challenge whether the player is injured or not.

If the French player had left the stadium in an ambulance would we still be arguing about this?

But he didn't,did he?
So your point has no relevance.
Nobody is saying that the challenge was legal,just that the punishment was unduly harsh,as there was clearly no malicious intent.
I have yet to hear any pundit agree with the sending off decision,and most of them are ex internationals who aren't Welsh.
Most of them think that the referee is a nob who cost Wales the game.
And they are right.
If this had been O'Driscoll sent off at Croke Park by an English ref for the same offence,I wonder how many of our Irish forumites would come on here to praise the official?

the Irish have always been particular about this issue since O'Driscoll got speared playing for the Lions.

 

[BoyBlue_1985]

That tackle was fucking disgusting and the red card was deserved. You cannot do that, can kill somebody with that sort of challenge