Running thread

Psychedelic Casual said:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2991639/

https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/53/10/655

Sprint training is a form of High Intensity Interval Training. Working at 100% in a series of short sets sets will see you work harder for longer than a moderate pace longer exercise session.

https://www.healthyfood.co.uk/article/ultimate-fat-burner-hiit/
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Cool - I will have a read.

I am aware of the benefits of HIIT including the afterburn effect. I will read the articles to weigh up the evidence. I'm wondering how an interval session of, say, 10 x 400m or 4 x 4-minute repeats compares to my weekend 3-hour LSR in terms of fat loss.
 
Just had an email through saying I can get a Manchester Marathon today got a couple a questions though...

We are due to play Liverpool that weekend will the game be on the Saturday or do they have them on the same time?

Is it possible to do it without doing a half marathon or is it just hard work from here?
 
A J Styles said:
Just had an email through saying I can get a Manchester Marathon today got a couple a questions though...

We are due to play Liverpool that weekend will the game be on the Saturday or do they have them on the same time?

Is it possible to do it without doing a half marathon or is it just hard work from here?
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Fuck knows about the game, Sky will most likely move it until the Sunday.

As BH85 says you'll need to be at least up to 16 miles, i'd personally say 20. I'm on that too, hadn't looked at the fixtures yet, last year was the Derby the day before, running slightly hungover isn't the best way to do a Marathon............
 
A J Styles said:
Just had an email through saying I can get a Manchester Marathon today got a couple a questions though...

We are due to play Liverpool that weekend will the game be on the Saturday or do they have them on the same time?

Is it possible to do it without doing a half marathon or is it just hard work from here?
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Ive ran Manchester Marathon twice ,having joined a local running club 5 years ago.
Id recommend a minimum of 16 weeks training including 2 runs of at least 18 miles and 1 of 20+
Lots of training plans in Runners world etc
Id also look to do a half mara as part of your training maybe 4/5 weeks before so you can test your kit/gels etc
 
A J Styles said:
Just had an email through saying I can get a Manchester Marathon today got a couple a questions though...

We are due to play Liverpool that weekend will the game be on the Saturday or do they have them on the same time?

Is it possible to do it without doing a half marathon or is it just hard work from here?
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It's a big step up from half marathon to full marathon as the infamous 'wall' tends to hit when you get to 18+ miles (as the body's store of glycogen is used up). Doing training runs in that range (18-20 miles) can help acclimatise the body to going through that point and you'll have an easier time of it on the day. but don't do what I did on my first one and go off too fast - I paid for it from mile 22 onwards!

As others have said, there are plenty of training plans out there so find one that works for you and try to stick to it.
 
m32blue said:
Ive ran Manchester Marathon twice ,having joined a local running club 5 years ago.
Id recommend a minimum of 16 weeks training including 2 runs of at least 18 miles and 1 of 20+
Lots of training plans in Runners world etc
Id also look to do a half mara as part of your training maybe 4/5 weeks before so you can test your kit/gels etc
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I'd agree with all of this
 
Cheers for the advice lads!

Surely the Liverpool game will be on the Saturday? The Derby was 2 years ago the same time!? If not I suppose its motivation to do it in 4 and half hours to get to the game.
 
A J Styles said:
Cheers for the advice lads!

Surely the Liverpool game will be on the Saturday? The Derby was 2 years ago the same time!? If not I suppose its motivation to do it in 4 and half hours to get to the game.
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Definitely Sunday or Monday IMO
 
Park run on saturday, dropped 24 secs from last weeks time so down to 21.05

My splits were 3:58, 4:02 and then after the hill I fell away to circa 4:20s with the last 1.5 being torturous.

Defo helped doing a longer run in the middle of the week (12k). Will keep an eye on my diet this week a couple more runs, swim and hopefully break 21 minutes this weekend.

Any decent, fast park runs in Greater Manchester as hoping to do one on the 28th?
 
franksinatra said:
Park run on saturday, dropped 24 secs from last weeks time so down to 21.05

My splits were 3:58, 4:02 and then after the hill I fell away to circa 4:20s with the last 1.5 being torturous.

Defo helped doing a longer run in the middle of the week (12k). Will keep an eye on my diet this week a couple more runs, swim and hopefully break 21 minutes this weekend.

Any decent, fast park runs in Greater Manchester as hoping to do one on the 28th?
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Don't do Sale. It's flat, but a lot of it is on uneven stone path. I imagine many twisted ankles have happened here.

Warrington is flat and the grassy areas drain well, but you have to make sure you don't get caught up in the crowd on the first corner.

The only other one I've done is Wythenshawe, which I ran yesterday. This is very flat and the paths are good and mostly wide. There are two grassy areas which are slightly slower, but it should be possible to challenge your PBs here.
 
Any Great North Runners this morning? I sadly had to defer my place this week after being struck down with tonsillitis. Still, it means I've got something to aim for, for next year. Went out and gently jogged a half marathon around the local villages to make up for missing it.

Apart from a very small, local 10k in a couple of weeks, the running season is now over for me. It's been very successful, with a marathon PB in London followed by two half marathon PBs. I'm now excited to kick-start my winter training with the aim of getting big, big PBs in every distance (marathon, half and 10k) in the spring.

Do you guys have any training plans or aims for over the next few months? I'm considering the Manchester Marathon if I don't get in to London.
 
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Paladin said:
Don't do Sale. It's flat, but a lot of it is on uneven stone path. I imagine many twisted ankles have happened here.

Warrington is flat and the grassy areas drain well, but you have to make sure you don't get caught up in the crowd on the first corner.

The only other one I've done is Wythenshawe, which I ran yesterday. This is very flat and the paths are good and mostly wide. There are two grassy areas which are slightly slower, but it should be possible to challenge your PBs here.
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Thanks for the info. The one I am running now is pretty flat and fast but with 2.5 laps there are 2 hills which really sap the legs. Sale sounds a real no no, not got the greatest running style and so I have historically gone over quite a lot on my ankles.
 
Paladin said:
I'm too old (58) for serious running. Park runs and the odd 10k is where I'm at, with anything between 5k and 12k for my training runs, of which I try to do five each week. It keeps me fit, which is the main thing.
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How old is too old?

I'm 52 and ran my last race, the London marathon, 5 years ago, for which I qualified with good for age time at Manchester marathon. Since then, typically 15 mile a week trail running and 50 mile a week cycling for fun. Just wondered if there is another marathon in me?
 
Paladin said:
I'm too old (58) for serious running. Park runs and the odd 10k is where I'm at, with anything between 5k and 12k for my training runs, of which I try to do five each week. It keeps me fit, which is the main thing.
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Nothing wrong with those distances at all. I have run from 5k to 20k in races and trained to 20/22 miles and going all in on a 5k is just as torturous.

Shorter distances suit me now although I will probably make an effort for Wilmslow half next year. Too much football and badminton has played havoc with the knees
 
A J Styles said:
Just had an email through saying I can get a Manchester Marathon today got a couple a questions though...

We are due to play Liverpool that weekend will the game be on the Saturday or do they have them on the same time?

Is it possible to do it without doing a half marathon or is it just hard work from here?
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Train seriously and follow a proper training plan. The long slow steady runs are key. Don't run too fast. Let the run come to you. Porridge and water only. No gels or sugar. Train your muscles to burn glycogen slowly......

Nuts and milk post run to recover. Forget the sports drinks.
 
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