Russian invasion of Ukraine

[KS55]

In the euphoria of Ukraine’s stunning success, we should be aware of the downsides:
1. Russia still holds 20% of Ukraine.
2. A Russian comeback cannot be ruled out.
3. Ukraine still needs more armaments and continued support from the West.
4. Ukraine needs to guard against over stretch and look to defend its supply lines.
5. There is still a long way to go.
#amazingukraine
#putinisfucked.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

Big ammo depot hit in Nova Kakhovka in the night........still detonating 7 hours after the strike.

Slava Ukraini.

 

[AlfGreyruinedmyday]

Big ammo depot hit in Nova Kakhovka in the night........still detonating 7 hours after the strike.

Slava Ukraini.

It seems that the Grand ol' Duke of York has been re-incarnated in Nova Kakhovka.
That place seems to get hit every night.

 

[meltonblue]

While all this is true, the Beeb has reacted poorly to the counter offensive. Ukraine’s progress was so swift, it made no sense to effectively ignore what was happening on the ground while waiting for confirmation. They should have set up a special rolling report, heavily cautioned with “unconfirmed” notices. The fog of war has heavily blindsided the Beeb’s editors.

Clive Myrie has said that Ukraine command has been limiting the information flow, it’s not in their interests for it to be on Twitter let alone on the main western news channels.

They’ll never stop the former but can do something about the latter.

 

[nmc]

You’ve got to understand that the BBC is a big, international, serious news organisation. They can’t just be broadcasting news because some guy on Twitter said X. Stuff needs to be verified and checked.

It’s why the big news organisations are often later to the party than, for example, a football forum.

Say a false Chinese whisper goes round that Putin has dropped a nuke. Some guy in Ukraine Tweets it and it gets picked up on here - well that‘s one thing. BBC News reporting it, only having to then retract it is a whole other thing.

Take your point but the Beeb seem to have put a loop tape on and fucked off… for a serious international news agency they are fast disappearing up their own sycophantic arse just now…. I totally get that the monarch had died but they are not reflecting the mood of the nation they are seeking to whip up a patriotic frenzy…. This is 2022 but Nicholas Witchell thinks it’s 1745.

 

[nmc]

In the euphoria of Ukraine’s stunning success, we should be aware of the downsides:
1. Russia still holds 20% of Ukraine.
2. A Russian comeback cannot be ruled out.
3. Ukraine still needs more armaments and continued support from the West.
4. Ukraine needs to guard against over stretch and look to defend its supply lines.
5. There is still a long way to go.
#amazingukraine
#putinisfucked.

^. This… Putin’s future is on the line here… he will throw everything at this…. Defeat in Ukraine will ultimately lead to regime change in Russia. There’s a long winter ahead.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

Partisans in occupied Kherson blew up the military enlistment office.

Slava Ukraini.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

In the euphoria of Ukraine’s stunning success, we should be aware of the downsides:
1. Russia still holds 20% of Ukraine.
2. A Russian comeback cannot be ruled out.
3. Ukraine still needs more armaments and continued support from the West.
4. Ukraine needs to guard against over stretch and look to defend its supply lines.
5. There is still a long way to go.
#amazingukraine
#putinisfucked.

If 2. happens it’s been one of the greatest acts of military subterfuge and sleight of hand of all time.

 

[Plays By Sense Of Smell]

If 2. happens it’s been one of the greatest acts of military subterfuge and sleight of hand of all time.

Yep. Looking at the map, there is that tiny lingering doubt that as the Ukrainians push further down that furrow they’ve created separating Russian forces in north and south Donbas, another Stalingrad might happen at some point.

But I’m sure intelligence re: enemy positions has come a long way since Paulus got pincered.

That and all other evidence pointing to the Russians’ war efforts being about as pedestrian and incompetent as it gets.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

^. This… Putin’s future is on the line here… he will throw everything at this…. Defeat in Ukraine will ultimately lead to regime change in Russia. There’s a long winter ahead.

He threw the kitchen sink at it back in February thinking it would be a few days walk over. Now he is facing a Ukrainian army that has gone on the offensive on multiple fronts. Russia has been unable to do this due to poor leadership, logistics and capability of their troops. His window of opportunity was the beginning of the war, Russia are now fighting a war they cannot win which is slowly turning into one which they will lose.

There must now be dissenting voices in the Kremlin asking what have they gained when the country is isolated from the world and 50,000 troops have been lost.

 

[nu774ll]

The BBC is slow at reporting it, but the Telegraph is calling it as we all see it here, even titling it Putin is finished!

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[Blue Mist]

The Daily Kos seemed better informed than the BBC.

But, as I understand, they are not official journo's. The bbc and others will respect the black out requested by Ukraine.

 

[JASR]

The BBC is slow at reporting it, but the Telegraph is calling it as we all see it here, even titling it Putin is finished!

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This bit 'In fact, as this article was being written, reports are emerging that the Ukrainians have retaken Donetsk Airport, and are heading for the Black Sea coast—either Mariupol, or Melitopol. It is a quite stunning success.' - is similar to something someone said yesterday... ;-)

 

[nmc]

He threw the kitchen sink at it back in February thinking it would be a few days walk over. Now he is facing a Ukrainian army that has gone on the offensive on multiple fronts. Russia has been unable to do this due to poor leadership, logistics and capability of their troops. His window of opportunity was the beginning of the war, Russia are now fighting a war they cannot win which is slowly turning into one which they will lose.

There must now be dissenting voices in the Kremlin asking what have they gained when the country is isolated from the world and 50,000 troops have been lost.

You are 100 per cent right…. Putin has diminishing options… best forces lost or worn out, conscripts with low morale, resources stretched to breaking point, a population who’ve been fed unsustainable propaganda - but like a tiger he will be most dangerous when cornered.

 

[feedmpenzaandhewillscore]

You are 100 per cent right…. Putin has diminishing options… best forces lost or worn out, conscripts with low morale, resources stretched to breaking point, a population who’ve been fed unsustainable propaganda - but like a tiger he will be most dangerous when cornered.

They won’t be able to pool together the equipment and troops they had in February due to sanctions stopping them producing munitions and that so many tanks, aircraft etc have been lost already. They have a powerful navy but they don’t seem to want to commit any of that near Ukrainian waters in the Black Sea and you can’t take large chunks of land with a submarine.

Putin will be dangerous when cornered, I think he will probably be more concerned about who is coming to get him internally than externally.

 

[Bilboblue]

Not sensitive

 

[kaz7]

if putin deserves to go on trail for this war and maybe he should, blair should be for killing and displacing millions.

are you on the wum ? Start a thread on blair if you want to rant at him

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Not sensitive

This can't be right surely, KS55 told us they would not refuse to serve and fight. Lol

 

[aguero93:20]

Must admit, I’ve been disappointed in the bbc maps for months.
Big arrows showing ‘pushes’… where ‘nothing’ has happened for months.
cross hatching of territory gained, which makes it impossible to tell as the colours of the cross hatching match the colours of the opposing sides territory.
needs some sort of colour sliding scale of territory (re)gained, to allow date periods (or periods of activity) for the gains, rather than an entire war’s gains shown as one colour.

War is all about logistics mate, supply chains move slowly.

 

[SPIDERBOY]

Hnylytsya,Kharkiv region,liberated.

Slava Ukraini.