Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Blue Mist]

It baffles me when anyone puts faith in the French. They dont even like each other. a very insular country where they look after themselves.. They are Rags of Europe

I was in deep south west France when I was told that the region hated the UK but they hated Paris more.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Yes they did, though the influence those bots and St Petersburg troll farms had on Brexit and the election of Trump may not have been decisive. Since then, they have also fanned the flames of the Pizzagate and QAnon conspiracy theories.

I have already posted a shedload of links to articles about some of this on page 142 of this thread.

For book length treatments, see Yale historian Tim Snyder’s The Road to Unfreedom, Peter Pomerantsev’s This Is Not Propaganda, and Mia Bloom and Sophia Moskalenko’s recent book on QAnon for that particular angle. It’s actually backfired on the Russians a bit as QAnon has now acquired a following in that part of the world too.

Will leave it there as I don’t want to take this thread off topic and am aware that a lot of people were perfectly capable of voting ‘Leave’ without having fallen prey to the malign influence of the ‘Internet Research Agency’.

If you really believe that you really don't understand that 70% of the population do not want to be part of an EU superstate - and make no mistake that is where the EU is going.. 2 in 7 voted Remain like me for an easy life or in the hope it won't happen. It will.
Best out of it but that's for another thread.

 

[domalino]

Well done Johnson, you've managed to erase all the goodwill you bought with Ukraine.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Yes it is, mainly because we’ve left ourseves on the outside looking in.Maybe if we hadn’t we would be the ones taking the lead.

Please stop trying to turn this thread into a rerun of a Brexit thread.

 

[Chris in London]

Their existing stock worked, but for some strange reason, the resupply was faulty.

My point exactly. If they were made by Renault the strange part would have been that the first ones worked.

 

[blueparrot]

So all the countries applying sanctions are wasting their time then. I mean, what's the point when France, despite e.u. sanctions continued to supply russia with armaments and are now restarting the Renault factory inside Russia. They make money whilst people die. So much for a 'union'.

You’re confusing two different things. One is now one is when this is over. The first France making cars or not makes little difference in the big sanction picture. The second one France will take the lead. Whether anyone thinks they should is irrelevant to the UK becpcause the UK has locked itself out.

 

[blueparrot]

Please stop trying to turn this thread into a rerun of a Brexit thread.

I was answering your post.

 

[i kne albert davy]

You’re confusing two different things. One is now one is when this is over. The first France making cars or not makes little difference in the big sanction picture. The second one France will take the lead. Whether anyone thinks they should is irrelevant to the UK becpcause the UK has locked itself out.

France with take the lead only if Germany says they can and even then we all know who's pulling the strings.
Meanwhile back to what this threads about the situation in Ukraine.It seems like the Ukrainian Army is having some success in forcing Russian troops back from the capital, wonder if they have the strength to force a way into the besieged port where they population are really suffering shit at the hands of the invader.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

France with take the lead only if Germany says they can and even then we all know who's pulling the strings.
Meanwhile back to what this threads about the situation in Ukraine.It seems like the Ukrainian Army is having some success in forcing Russian troops back from the capital, wonder if they have the strength to force a way into the besieged port where they population are really suffering shit at the hands of the invader.

Suppose it depends on numbers, the Russians will have to defend two sides. Doesn't sound easy.

 

[sniff]

I was in deep south west France when I was told that the region hated the UK but they hated Paris more.

Ive never liked em since i went to McDonalds in Paris with school. I asked for Fries and the guy looked at me like i grew a second head. Frits was the French word. He knew what i meant the slimey French Toad. Never trusted em since. that and they ruined a Stag doo when air traffic control do the usual summer holiday strike. A bit of "friendly fire" might wake them up.