Russian invasion of Ukraine

[denislawsbackheel]

Indeed but perhaps the effectiveness of NATO is measured by the countries within it and that is dominated US defence power which they all get a share in. So yeah no-one really pays for NATO but we all know who really pays for it in terms of resources. If you remove that US power then your effectiveness and capability drops to virtually nothing really so what will this EU army achieve?

People just take what the US brings for granted and think it's a given but there's no chance that they'll accept collaboration and sharing without having influence, especially as some EU countries aren't in NATO. Why would they for example accept France spending more money and resources on an EU army instead of it spending to fulfil its commitments to NATO?

More importantly at the moment - why would the US continue to pay for and operate ballistic missile defence sites in Poland and Romania when European countries are going off to start their own army specifically to remain outside of the influence of the US? If I was the US I'd pack up my site and say you're on your own.

Another question, if the US was attacked then would France strike back as required by their commitment to NATO? What happens if the EU army says no?

You could ask that of any NATO country.

Even us.

 

[KS55]

In Brittany it was illegal to teach the Breton language in schools until the end of WW 2. Now parents can opt to have their children taught in Breton.
Brittany itself only officially accepted it was part of France in the 1920s.

Five official languages in France: French, Breton, Alsatian, Langue d' Oc (Occitane), Basque. They have messed about with this list in recent years, so I may be inaccurate.

 

[Protein Junkie]

I've heard that all over France from the locals. The main gripe is the Parisians buying second homes and pushing up prices, so that young locals can't get on the housing ladder. It's not new - it's the same over here.

But who willingly sells the homes in the first place ?
Yes it’s the same over here. Indigenous folk sell their homes to “outsiders” for Often way over market value yet it’s the outsiders get the blame not the locals !!!!

 

[blueparrot]

But who willingly sells the homes in the first place ?
Yes it’s the same over here. Indigenous folk sell their homes to “outsiders” for Often way over market value yet it’s the outsiders get the blame not the locals !!!!

Don't think there is a blame, can't blame the buyer for buying or the seller for taking the best price. I's a problem but unsure what the answer is apart from either government restrictions or increasing supply. Not sure why this is in this thread though

 

[west didsblue]

Another question, if the US was attacked then would France strike back as required by their commitment to NATO? What happens if the EU army says no?

Article 5 has been invoked just once. It was on 12 September 2001 and each member nation committed to provide military support to the US where required.

 

[Blue Mist]

Five official languages in France: French, Breton, Alsatian, Langue d' Oc (Occitane), Basque. They have messed about with this list in recent years, so I may be inaccurate.

Sorry to hijack the thread as such but this is educational. I think the Cathar language is Occitane which is brilliant if it has been recognised.

 

[Protein Junkie]

Don't think there is a blame, can't blame the buyer for buying or the seller for taking the best price. I's a problem but unsure what the answer is apart from either government restrictions or increasing supply. Not sure why this is in this thread though

Ha true !!! Genuinely forgot it was the Ukraine thread (slaps own wrist )

 

[cleavers]

It is a pity the Ukranians don't have any missiles they could fire at Russia.

They do, but it's good that they haven't done, they are using them to fight on the home front.

 

[cleavers]

But who willingly sells the homes in the first place ?
Yes it’s the same over here. Indigenous folk sell their homes to “outsiders” for Often way over market value yet it’s the outsiders get the blame not the locals !!!!

Don't think there is a blame, can't blame the buyer for buying or the seller for taking the best price. I's a problem but unsure what the answer is apart from either government restrictions or increasing supply. Not sure why this is in this thread though

Sorry to hijack the thread as such but this is educational. I think the Cathar language is Occitane which is brilliant if it has been recognised.

Not sure what any of this has to do with a war in eastern europe, if you want to discuss french languages start a new thread please.

 

[Protein Junkie]

Not sure what any of this has to do with a war in eastern europe, if you want to discuss french languages start a new thread please.

One post Cleavers and I apologised :-( harsh