Russian invasion of Ukraine

[BlueAnorak]

Day 247 Review - all politics:

Ukraine Invasion Day 247: Putin says there are two Wests, one isn't Mae

Putin claims he’s not into world domination, it's really the West. Fortunately there haven’t that many map changes as much as the disinformation war has escalated to Russia revealing which US political party they think should win the 2022 election....

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[BlueAnorak]

Anyone else ever note the sheer volume of these Buhanka vans behind Russian lines...

As they ressemble the Mystery Machine, I can now imagine Russian soldiers as "Scrappy Do'" who ruins everything (including the "Scooby Do" show) and delight in their misfortune.
Developing coping strategies for the suffering that Russian soilders cause and being able to dehumanise them as human beings isn't really me and I dislike intensely what they have done to my humanity - but hey - the cap fits.

 

[Metal Biker]

Difference is this time drop 1 dirty bomb and NATO will react in a big fucking way.

Damn right. If the Russians think the resulting explosion would only be contained in Ukraine and not spread to the surrounding NATO territories, and that NATO would not then bring the fury, they're more naive than we thought.

 

[grunge]

Damn right. If the Russians think the resulting explosion would only be contained in Ukraine and not spread to the surrounding NATO territories, and that NATO would not then bring the fury, they're more naive than we thought.

A dirty bomb should be pretty localised, a mile or 2 at most. wouldn’t have fall out like an actual nuke.

Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC): Fact Sheet on Dirty Bombs

This fact sheet is based upon information from: The United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Office of Public Affairs

www.mass.gov

 

[aguero93:20]

A dirty bomb should be pretty localised, a mile or 2 at most. wouldn’t have fall out like an actual nuke.

Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC): Fact Sheet on Dirty Bombs

This fact sheet is based upon information from: The United States Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Office of Public Affairs

www.mass.gov

Wouldn't matter, there's a line drawn in the sand when it comes to any kind of nuclear weaponry.

 

[BlueHammer85]

 

[west didsblue]

Difference is this time drop 1 dirty bomb and NATO will react in a big fucking way.

Depends if it goes off in Ukraine or if he bombs one of his own cities in a false flag like last time.

 

[aguero93:20]

Depends if it goes off in Ukraine or if he bombs one of his own cities in a false flag like last time.

Think a false flag move would be a big mistake too in this era of social media and the world wide web. It's been flagged up as a possibility too far in advance and it's fairly widely known that Ukraine don't have access to the materials but Russia do.

 

[RobMCFC]

Its been a theory all along that Putin is trying the drag NATO into the war so that he can save face by retreating and saying "look, we lost to big, bad NATO".

So far, the West has held the moral high ground by not reacting, other than supplying humanitarian aid and weapons.

However, I just had a thought: If Putin is to continue to escalate with a view to involving NATO, there does indeed have to be line in the sand, and maybe it's better to put him in his place without waiting for him to do something truly horrible.

Not saying it's an easy decision for the NATO generals, but reacting to something bad rather than waiting for something very bad might be the better course of action.

 

[andyhinch]

Think a false flag move would be a big mistake too in this era of social media and the world wide web. It's been flagged up as a possibility too far in advance and it's fairly widely known that Ukraine don't have access to the materials but Russia do.

All true only a complete mad man would think they could get away with it, unfortunately.......