Russian invasion of Ukraine

SPIDERBOY said:
Russian mobilized are given an instruction sheet when they now go to the battlefield.
One of the instructions tells them,that if they are about to be captured "pull the pin from your grenade and place the grenade under your body vest,it's better to have a dignified death,than be captured"

Slava Ukraini.
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Suicide bombing is a dignified death? Have they been recruiting from special schools? How stupid are the Russians for their officers to think they'll believe that shit?
 
Another entry from the Russian clown car cavalcade that was the invasion...
The invasion forces destroyed mobile masts to prevent Ukrainian reserves, partisans and ad-hic civilian units communicating.
Unfortunately, the Russian encrypted communications network, created at great expense a few years back needs mobile comms at the company level.
 
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roubaixtuesday said:
There are very good reasons they didn't.

I'm not sure a new leader changes any of them.
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A new leader put there by Putin. Or Russia blames Ukraine for the killing and provides “evidence” to Belarus. Either way. They join. Or try and it causes an internal coup.

Lukashenko was the one sensibly stopping it happening much to Putins annoyance.
 
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Fat Fairy said:
Do you have ANY idea how fast a warship can turn?
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You triggered my curiosity!

"Pretty fast" in relative terms i can immagine atleast from a historical perspective, though i don't know too much in regards to modern ships, i know something about the development of warships between 1880 and 1950 and .. well: "one warship wasn't nessecarily the other", right? most navy's maintained several generations of waships of which the modern ones were often a lot more maneuverable which was usefull to dodge torpedo's and aerial bombs, and afcourse there was still a huge difference between a destroyer and a battleship. Navy's did a lot of development in ship maneuverabillety back then and evolutions were often incremental. Hence i have to say it's kinda a weird question, because even the critical inittial question to this should be "what size of warship are we talking about here"? and then "what genneration of warship"? Smallest millitary class is frigates and corvette's afaik, i bet they are rather a lot more maneuverable than a carrier as displacement varies a lot. Or in Uk terms, a type 26 fregate is about 6000 tons, versus the 65000 tons of a Queen Elisabeth class carier, thats quite a bit more Innertia once its up to speed.

Now im trying to look up specs like turn circle or rudder shift time for a corvette versus a carrier but it's apparently not easy to find. I'm rather immagining the rather baddass size of machinery that is required to push that rudder around fast, which captains likely appreciate in their warship. Please enlighten us. Do you know how fast a warship can turn?
 
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FlemishDuck said:
Pretty fast i can immagine, though i don't know in regards to modern ships, i know something about the development of warships between 1880 and 1950 and well "one warship wasn't nessecarily the other" right? most navy's maintained several generations of waships of which the modern ones were often more maneuverable which was usefull to dodge torpedo's and aerial bombs, and afcourse there was still a huge difference between a destroyer and a battleship. hence i have to say it's kinda a weird question, because the critical question would be "what size of warship are we talking about here"? Smallest class is millitary corvette's afaik, i bet they are rather rediculously more maneuverable than a Nimitz class carrier.
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Around 2 minutes at between 15 and 30 knots for all sizes.
 
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