Russian invasion of Ukraine

[robbieh]

Bit narrow minded.

I dont rate a lot of the stuff that he posts, but he's bang on with a couple of points here.

I'm sure you're not surprised by the response to you posting that video.
He's asking people to think and a lot of people are uncomfortable with doing that.

 

[kippaxwarrior]

Poland are refusing to play Russia in the world cup playoff next month

 

[domalino]

Bit narrow minded.

I dont rate a lot of the stuff that he posts, but he's bang on with a couple of points here.

Go on then, expand on that. Which points is he “bang on” with?

 

[Bazzmand Show]

I'm sure you're not surprised by the response to you posting that video.
He's asking people to think and a lot of people are uncomfortable with doing that.

Didn't think it would get as much hate, but yes - does appear people are not able to look at the broader picture and all the elements at play here.

 

[Coatigan]

I think we are especially bothered by this because it's on the doorstep of Europe and frankly Ukrainians look like us. If they were a bit further away and brown or yellow we'd probably just shake our heads, shrug our shoulders and think it's not good but ultimately get on with our lives. We take exactly the same stance as India/UAE are here on various conflicts and atrocities around the world every day.

I disagree.

And I haven't yet seen any Ukranians that look like me.

Although I have seen one that's looks a lot like KdB.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

I've been a fairly regular visitor to Cyprus for 20 years and the Russian presence there has grown massively. Largely because after the Greek financial crisis Cyprus (Greek bit) was buggered and to generate cash they cheerfully gave out citizenship and a shiny EU passport in return for largish property investment. For Russians with cash this represented a neat opportunity to get sun, sea, sand, EU citizenship, and nicely laundered money. They've also been ramping up the cloak and dagger stuff over there against UK/NATO interests.

Same happened in Malta. Always loads of rude miserable Russians there in large numbers for that reason n’all.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

Go on then, expand on that. Which points is he “bang on” with?

For a start that the era of 'goodies and baddies is over' and most major powers these days are just 'baddies'.

Literally every major power has been involved in morally corrupt bullshit over the last few decades.

 

[inbetween]

Don'tr really rate a lot of the shit that Brand comes out with, but it's worth having a look at the view outside the main narrative.

I'm not sure of the relevance of what he's talking about. He's mostly talking of an anti-war stance of a war that isn't happening and no-one wants. The only war that is actually happening is the one that he doesn't really criticise, he just deflects that by saying the west basically cannot do anything but stand, watch and tell Putin he's naughty.

In reality the views we have of our own position is irrelevant because we are not going to go to war with Russia. The only people that matter then are Ukrainians but I seriously doubt that they're thinking oh I'm so glad that the west aren't getting involved because they were such gits in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya etc....

He can argue these stupid things from his safe and privileged position in London however put him as a Ukrainian in Kiev and it changes quite a bit. He'd soon forget the failings of the west and actually he'd be calling for NATO's entire military effort to come and destroy Russia.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

I’ve seen this video posted three times now. So I’ll again repeat something he says at 10mins 30secs to show you how reliable it is…

“This of course is not the conventional wisdom of the United States, and in fact, except for Steve Cohen… [98 year old]Henry Kissinger and maybe a handful of other people, there are not many people who agree with me!”

The Ukraine crisis according to John J. Mearsheimer: Impeccable Logic, Wrong Facts

Dr Alexander Motyl challenges John Mearsheimer's assertion that the ongoing crisis in Ukraine is purely the fault of the West, arguing that Russia's actions have gone beyond the rational Realism that Mearshimer has posited.

www.europeanleadershipnetwork.org

He’s also been accused of being an anti-Semite with his book about Israel.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

I'm not sure of the relevance of what he's talking about. He's mostly talking of an anti-war stance of a war that isn't happening and no-one wants. The only war that is actually happening is the one that he doesn't really criticise.

In reality the views we have of our own position is irrelevant because we are not going to go to war with Russia. The only people that matter are Ukrainians and I seriously doubt that they're thinking oh I'm so glad that the west isn't getting involved because they were such gits in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya etc....

He can argue these stupid things from his safe and privileged position in London however put him as a Ukrainian in Kiev and it changes quite a bit. He'd soon forget the failings of the west and actually he'd be calling for NATO's entire military effort to come and destroy Russia.

He's trying to get people to think about the broader geopolitical issues at play here and what sort of events around it are causing this.