Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Churchlawtonblue]

Anyway, thanks for the debate chaps, it's been worthwhile and interesting.

I still maintain my position that Ukraine doesn't have the capability of the number of missiles or right type to take out the Kerch bridge.

Fingers crossed this changes soon.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Yet you started off your argument by saying they couldn't hit the bridge, clearly if they can hit a much smaller ship in port (both stationary), they can hit a bridge.

All most people have said all along is they choose not to hit for now, the reasons for that are unknown to us, but wasting weapons on a "vanity" target would be pointless, and wasteful, and it wouldn't prevent re-supply, just hinder it, so militarily it's currently not that important.

I never said they couldn't hit it, I said destroy it. Clearly they have hit it already. Anyway debate over. We shall have to agree to dissagree. Cheers

 

[cleavers]

I never said they couldn't hit it, I said destroy it.

If they can hit it, they can destroy it, if they want to.

 

[grunge]

You just said they might not have the ability ie not enough missiles?

Nope. Not quite. I said they maybe choosing to not use those missiles as they maybe better used elsewhere ( take out ships, planes etc etc )

 

[dickie davies]

I’m sure I read somewhere that Storm shadow missiles would only put a hole in the bridge and not destroy it. Something about they’d pass straight through the structure and detonate in the sea underneath so the explosion would be dissipated

 

[mrcunny]

I’m sure I read somewhere that Storm shadow missiles would only put a hole in the bridge and not destroy it. Something about they’d pass straight through the structure and detonate in the sea underneath so the explosion would be dissipated

Taurus is the one..

 

[grunge]

I’m sure I read somewhere that Storm shadow missiles would only put a hole in the bridge and not destroy it. Something about they’d pass straight through the structure and detonate in the sea underneath so the explosion would be dissipated

I read similar but one article noted that it has a bunker buster warhead that if used and managed a direct hit ( not easy ) over one of the legs it may do the job. But it’s not the tool for the job.

 

[cleavers]

it’s not the tool for the job.

It isn't, so far it's been used for what it's best at, hitting things like hq's, and ships/subs.

If it hit the bridge mid span it would make a hole, it would need to hit the bridge at the columns under the arches, there's at least 8 of those, if they did manage that it would take a lot of repairing.

 

[BlueAnorak]

More stuff blowing up...

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[BlueAnorak]

Krynky - A potted history of the battle.

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