Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Bruno39]

Where exactly did you you hear that about Johnson. And how was he over ruling Zelensky?

Won't be able to find the exact source or video, but this is from Sep 2022. It's something I certainly heard around that time, and again since.

Putin saying that Johnson was responsible for tanking peace negotiations wasn't news to me.

Western allies led by UK’s Johnson sabotaged tentative Ukraine-Russia peace deal - Gulf Insider

There's mounting evidence that the war in Ukraine could have been over by this point, but key Wester

www.gulf-insider.com

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Won't be able to find the exact source or video, but this is from Sep 2022. It's something I certainly heard around that time, and again since.

Putin saying that Johnson was responsible for tanking peace negotiations wasn't news to me.

Western allies led by UK’s Johnson sabotaged tentative Ukraine-Russia peace deal - Gulf Insider

There's mounting evidence that the war in Ukraine could have been over by this point, but key Wester

www.gulf-insider.com

Can you explain how ‘peace negotiations’ work with Russia?

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Won't be able to find the exact source or video, but this is from Sep 2022. It's something I certainly heard around that time, and again since.

Putin saying that Johnson was responsible for tanking peace negotiations wasn't news to me.

Western allies led by UK’s Johnson sabotaged tentative Ukraine-Russia peace deal - Gulf Insider

There's mounting evidence that the war in Ukraine could have been over by this point, but key Wester

www.gulf-insider.com

You believe Putin. Bit of a weird stance I feel given that the man is a proven liar and ruthless dictator. I think that tells everyone on this forum quite abit about your stance on the war, or would you prefer it if I called it the Special Military Opperation ?

 

[Bruno39]

Can you explain how ‘peace negotiations’ work with Russia?

Ceasefire of this particular conflict and probably something similar to what was agreed and signed off in 2014 in the Minsk agreements for starters I'd guess.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Putin saying that Johnson was responsible for tanking peace negotiations wasn't news to me.

It's obvious and risible bullshit though.

Decent analysis here

No, the West did not sabotage an early peace deal in Ukraine

Op/Analysis: Debunking pro-Kremlin narratives disseminated by a University of Ottawa academic and Grayzone News

www.thebureau.news

Russian voices are still trying to twist the narrative to suit their interests, and some people are, unfortunately, gullible enough to believe them

 

[fulabeer]

Won't be able to find the exact source or video, but this is from Sep 2022. It's something I certainly heard around that time, and again since.

Putin saying that Johnson was responsible for tanking peace negotiations wasn't news to me.

Western allies led by UK’s Johnson sabotaged tentative Ukraine-Russia peace deal - Gulf Insider

There's mounting evidence that the war in Ukraine could have been over by this point, but key Wester

www.gulf-insider.com

A one sided story first of all.
Second, i would imagine the "peace" talks mainly consisted of "surrender the entire country if you want to live".

I think Putin would be up for more serious peace talks now, than then.

Still, this is for the Ukraine to decided, nobody else.
Peace on Putin's terms should never be accepted, now or ever.

 

[Bruno39]

You believe Putin. Bit of a weird stance I feel given that the man is a proven liar and ruthless dictator. I think that tells everyone on this forum quite abit about your stance on the war, or would you prefer it if I called it the Special Military Opperation ?

Not every word he says, but I don't believe every word Zelinksy, Biden, or other USA diplomats. Truth is the first casualty of war etc. etc.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Ceasefire of this particular conflict and probably something similar to what was agreed and signed off in 2014 in the Minsk agreements for starters I'd guess.

Would you seriously trust Russia to keep to any agreement it purports to make?

 

[fulabeer]

Would you seriously trust Russia to keep to any agreement it purports to make?

And therein lies the biggest stumbling block when agreeing anything with Putin.
Force and only force, is the only language this man understands. Until his demise, there will be no lasting peace.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Not every word he says, but I don't believe every word Zelinksy, Biden, or other USA diplomats. Truth is the first casualty of war etc. etc.

You seem to believe the most obvious bullshit.