Russian invasion of Ukraine

BringBackSwales said:
I agree Paul, I think we are about to see the destruction of Kyiv, and there may come a time when the western world simply can’t just continue to watch it happen. If the Russian generals and oligarchs don’t stop the mad **** it’s going to be appalling beyond words
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It has a feeling of inevitability about it. Sanctions, lots of condemnation but the mad lunatic called Putin and his mob being the backward macho stuck in the dark ages morons they are won't stop. Eventually another country will help militarily and it all kicks off.
 
kaz7 said:
Zinchy is such a sweetheart, seeing him cry was gutting
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I’ve been teary eyed watching the BBC news, watching a Polish family who’ve driven to the border and taken Ukrainian families home with her to live in her home. It’s fucking heartbreaking. I haven’t even looked at the team news yet, it just seems so trivial by comparison
 
dickie davies said:
Today is the first day I've listened to wall to wall coverage and I am starting to get really frightened, not for me, but for my girls and perhaps I'm scared because it is rolling news
But I'm starting to think the only way out of this without a nuke is we reach out to the Russian hierarchy to assassinate Putin
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For me personally, it is what it is. I’ve packed up a suitcase full of stuff for a local family who are taking it directly to the Polish/Ukrainian border. That’s all I can do, I’ll now crack on with my life. But as you say, it’s my kids, they’re just three and just two.
They already think it’s normal to
wear a mask everywhere, have their temperature taking every day and Mum and Dad shoving things up their nose twice a week.
They’ve now no doubt got years of this shit to grow up with. And I don’t see how things get much better.
I fear for what our kids have to grow up with. I’m 41, and my life has been worry free, I just don’t see the next 41 years being much fun..
 
Paul1970 said:
A lot of bad blood from world war 2 coming out as the Ukraine army sided with Germany and commit a lot of atrocities in Russia . No excuse but Russia have long memories . Going fighters the Ukraine’s are .
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The Ukraine didn’t exist in WW2, it was in the Soviet Union. They didn’t “side with Germany”.

When Operation Barbarossa launched, the territory and people in what’s modern day Ukraine were overran and captured within days, as the whole USSR response was in disarray.
 
metalblue said:
Looks like the EU committed to funding the purchase but NATO has put the breaks on Bulgaria and Slovakia cite not having the availability and Poland say following call with NATO that they won’t be supplying as that would be a direct interference in the conflict which NATO is not a party to.

Basically looks like the EU got ahead of itself here which would be embarrassing ordinarily but is tragic in these circumstances.

I don’t see how NATO members supplying planes is any different from supplying weapons in the interference context. Can only think the thinking is if this becomes a wider conflict we need everything we’ve got and that it won’t turn the tide of what is happening on the ground (bit like the RAF not supplying more to France in WW2 when requested which proved to be the correct decision) - although surely stopping Putin in Ukraine is the best way of preventing that??
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The prospect of Polish planes attacking Russian planes was probably perceived as a step too far, coupled with the US refusing to even consider a no fly zone.

I guess a certain degree of de-escalation was agreed upon. Although everyone seems ‘happy’ with Belarus sticking its fucking oar in.
 
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