Russian invasion of Ukraine

[grunge]

I wonder if the UK will follow suit. I doubt it. UK support for Ukraine really isn't what it was before the election. I really hoped Starmer's promise before the election was true - but like other promises it looks like it isn't a real promise.

Relations between Ukraine and UK are worse under Labour, say Kyiv officials

Exclusive: Zelenskyy administration expresses frustration with Starmer over lack of missiles

www.theguardian.com

Does make me wonder if we have much more to send in terms of storm shadows. It’s not clear how many we had to start with.

Probably good that there isn’t much known about how many are made each year ect.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Does make me wonder if we have much more to send in terms of storm shadows. It’s not clear how many we had to start with.

Our issue is quite simply, we don’t have enough to start with. Defence has been cut to the bone and those who make munitions for us aren’t getting the orders.

There was one on the TV a few months back, or so, who was asked why they weren’t making more. He replied that they weren’t getting the orders.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Stuff 11/11:

Russian stuff blowing up: Ukraine attacks Moscow with a drone swarm

Ukraine launched its largest drone attack on Moscow. The number of drones involved varies, depending on the source, from the 30s to more than 100. I have not seen any reports yet on what was targeted and what was successfully hit. Moscow’s airports...

www.dailykos.com

 

[ShakesSpeare]

Russia-Ukraine war: Russia jails soldiers who killed entire family in Ukraine

The sentence, handed down by a Russian court, is a rare example of the country holding its troops to account for war crimes.

www.bbc.com

Article says:
1: "the trial was held behind closed doors."
2: "the family was murdered for refusing to give up their house to the Russian troops."
3: Only "two soldiers" were prosecuted & sentenced.

"Two soldiers" cannot pointblank execute a family. Soldiers follow orders.

Hence, the soldiers are scapegoats. Putin is protecting his generals. Also, pointblank execution of a whole family for refusing to give up its house WAS A HORRIFIC THREAT to all other families daring similar thoughts. Massacre occurred "just weeks" after the invasion. Putin and his generals deemed it essential to secure the success of the invasion in the early days.

What probably happened is that the father and/or other male seniors of the family were stubborn in refusing to leave the house and hand it over to the Russian army. One thing probably led to another. Russians couldn't leave children as witnesses of what has transpired so that the whole family was executed. Beyond words horrific.

It could have perhaps been an act of a single, rogue general. But why would then Putin protect him and prosecute and sentence just the two soldiers. Truly disgusting and horrific.

It was a family of nine. With children. They had a birthday celebration when the army showed up. That might seem weird that they held a birthday celebration but Ukrainian and Russian people are similar, their languages are very similar too. The family probably didn't suspect such grave, grave actions could occur.

ps And notice the first sentence of the BBC report. That is how Putin manipulates and "massages" the western media too. Presenting himself and his rule as some sort of an enlightened leader/country. Truly despicable behaviour.

pps And in other news Putin does this what you can see below to start psychologically manipulating Trump. As a KGB operative, Putin is huge on that stuff. That's how he works. Psychological manipulation of others especially on the basis of some "dirt" he holds about them:

US outrage as Melania Trump nude images shown on Russian television show

Russian TV has shown nude images of Melania Trump as it congratulated her husband for his US presidential victory.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

 

[west didsblue]

Russia-Ukraine war: Russia jails soldiers who killed entire family in Ukraine

The sentence, handed down by a Russian court, is a rare example of the country holding its troops to account for war crimes.

www.bbc.com

Article says:
1: "the trial was held behind closed doors."
2: "the family was murdered for refusing to give up their house to the Russian troops."
3: Only "two soldiers" were prosecuted & sentenced.

"Two soldiers" cannot pointblank execute a family. Soldiers follow orders.

Hence, the soldiers are scapegoats. Putin is protecting his generals. Also, pointblank execution of a whole family for refusing to give up its house WAS A HORRIFIC THREAT to all other families daring similar thoughts. Massacre occurred "just weeks" after the invasion. Putin and his generals deemed it essential to secure the success of the invasion in the early days.

What probably happened is that the father and/or other male seniors of the family were stubborn in refusing to leave the house and hand it over to the Russian army. One thing probably led to another. Russians couldn't leave children as witnesses of what has transpired so that the whole family was executed. Beyond words horrific.

It could have perhaps been an act of a single, rogue general. But why would then Putin protect him and prosecute and sentence just the two soldiers. Truly disgusting and horrific.

It was a family of nine. With children. They had a birthday celebration when the army showed up. That might seem weird that they held a birthday celebration but Ukrainian and Russian people are similar, their languages are very similar too. The family probably didn't suspect such grave, grave actions could occur.

ps And Putin does this what you can see below to start psychologically manipulating Trump. As a KGB operative, Putin is huge on that stuff. That's how he works. Psychological manipulation of others especially on the basis of some "dirt" he holds about them:

US outrage as Melania Trump nude images shown on Russian television show

Russian TV has shown nude images of Melania Trump as it congratulated her husband for his US presidential victory.

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Not sure Putin has the same hold on Trump as he had 8 years ago. The Russians more than likely do have kompromat on Trump but a video of some prostitutes pissing on him would be written off as AI, and his supporters wouldn’t bat an eyelid even if they believed it was true. Problem is that Trump admires Putin and will get manipulated by him anyway even without the threat of kompromat.

 

[dickie davies]

Apparently Trump has had the bust of Winston Churchill re-installed in the Whitehouse as he believes he was one of the greatest leaders in history
Perhaps someone can have a word with Trump and convince him this is his chance of emulating Churchill as a great leader of the free world by truly supporting Ukraine, give them all that armour that's sitting in American fields and smash the nazi aggressors
It would also serve as a warning to china

 

[grunge]

I did read that Trump was quite trigger happy with wars and it was his advisors that stopped him. but that could well just be "internet bollocks"

He certainly started a massive attack against Iran but changed his mind while the planes were on the way.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Apparently Trump has had the bust of Winston Churchill re-installed in the Whitehouse as he believes he was one of the greatest leaders in history
Perhaps someone can have a word with Trump and convince him this is his chance of emulating Churchill as a great leader of the free world by truly supporting Ukraine, give them all that armour that's sitting in American fields and smash the nazi aggressors
It would also serve as a warning to china

He isnt in the White House until 20th January

 

[roubaixtuesday]

He certainly started a massive attack against Iran but changed his mind while the planes were on the way.

Not saying you're wrong, but my scepticism radar is going off at this point - is there any evidence for this "massive attack" having occurred?

 

[BTH]

He isnt in the White House until 20th January

A lot could happen in the world between now and then.