Russian invasion of Ukraine

I think the demand for a snap election is the poison pill. Russia will use all its well established election interference tools to install a puppet and its basically goodbye Ukraine.
The problem is, if there is "peace" (no war), there will have to be an election anyway, as it's now well overdue in their constitution, but they can't have an election in a time of war.

At some point the war has to end for the sake of the population(s), and that will mean an election in Ukraine, so there has to be something built into that election, that it is "fair" and "free".

Any eventual election can't be overseen by russia, as we all know how fair and free their elections are, but how is it overseen and who by ?
 
The problem is, if there is "peace" (no war), there will have to be an election anyway, as it's now well overdue in their constitution, but they can't have an election in a time of war.

At some point the war has to end for the sake of the population(s), and that will mean an election in Ukraine, so there has to be something built into that election, that it is "fair" and "free".

Any eventual election can't be overseen by russia, as we all know how fair and free their elections are, but how is it overseen and who by ?
Trump would orchestrate it and it would be the bestest and fairest election ever.
 
I’d rather see British boots on the ground than Ukraine agreeing to that deal.

Simplest way for Zelenskyy to get out of it is to offer a vote to his people - will they accept it or not? I think we all know the answer.
 
Senator Lindsay Graham and my other Republican congressmen need to step up to the plate.
Enough is enough.

China will love this "peace" deal as much as Russia, as Taiwan will be much lower hanging fruit as a result.
 
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Yigal Levin, Ukrainian military expert:

The situation on the front of the Russian-Ukrainian war in 2023 and today - the strategic level.There is a certain method, one of the first we were taught: for an objective analysis, put yourself in the shoes of a completely external (but competent) observer.For example, if 50 years from now a Japanese historian — or even better, a Chilean one (Japan, after all, was on Ukraine’s side) — sees this map, a knowledgeable and competent historian, and also sees the figures showing what Russia spent and lost for such “gains,” he will unequivocally call it a military failure, a collapse, an act of glaring incompetence, and national impotence.Yes, for Ukrainian soldiers who lost their friends, their health, and their nerves in those endless tree lines and villages, this offers no comfort. But the strategic level is not about the soldier; in fact, it is not about people at all.Strategy and politics are always about big numbers, capacities, processes, potential, and capabilities.A person, in strategy, is only the sum of sets — a resource. And in military language that is exactly what it is called: human resources.And yes, attention: I am not going to write disclaimers here with caveats that Ukraine also has everything going badly or even worse. Any Ukrainian already knows and understands this better than you or I do; I show this map to point to something entirely different.These virtually zero gains, achieved despite more than one million total Russian Armed Forces casualties — several hundred thousand of them killed (these are already documented facts) — along with thousands of destroyed pieces of military equipment, a wrecked Russian economy and finances, and other losses Moscow has suffered, all while Ukraine has: hundreds of thousands of deserters, “teaspoon-per-day” aid from partners, mobilization failures, organizational problems in the army, and so on.This is what Moscow managed to achieve while fighting the Ukrainian Defense Forces in such conditions.And what would the picture look like if the situation were improved even slightly: boosted a bit, shut down Russian information-ops, replaced the “help” from partners (especially the Americans) with actual assistance, and fixed at least 20% of the problems with desertion, mobilization, and organization?Do you think the United States doesn’t understand this (and Europeans as well, though that’s its own story)? They absolutely do. Right now, with the situation exactly as you see it on the map, they are pressuring Ukraine into an agreement that is close in form and substance to a capitulation.They pressure not because Ukraine is weak. If it were weak, you would be looking at a completely different map. They pressure because Russia is catastrophically weak and incompetent.That is the essence of this pressure: at Ukraine’s expense, so that Ukrainians pay for Russian stupidity and bloody idiocy.It seems to me that this is precisely what Kyiv’s diplomats will need to point out this week in their negotiations with the US and Europe.Not in the sense of “look, Russia is weak, let’s finish it off” — no one planned or plans to finish Russia off (on the contrary). But in the sense of: we understand everything, thank you, but do not take us for fools.That is the core. Everything else is dust.

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Chancellor Merz held a 15min call with trump this evening and now informs his UK and European colleagues.

His short statement says that the current contact line will be the starting point of any negotiations.

I would expect UK and Europeans still try to win time to get closer to independence in all areas. In other words, trump can shove that plan up putins fat arse ;)
 
Experts were puzzled today after noticing that the new American “peace plan” reads like it was drafted in Russian first, then run through a tired translator, with every point conveniently aligned with Moscow’s interests. The giveaway is a sentence such as “Russia is expected not to invade neighboring countries,” a phrasing no English speaker uses unless their brain is running Russian settings. Officials say the whole thing looks less like US policy and more like homework checked by the Kremlin, reinforcing the now familiar pattern that anything coming out of Trump’s orbit somehow lands perfectly on Russia’s side every single time.

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I don't post on here often but now, shit, this is surreal.
The Orange Shit Gibbon has just fucked up the world order.
I have no answers but I hope Europe now works together, stands together and more importantly invests together.
FuckTrump. We are still seeing Russian aggression throughout Europe, an enforced Ukrainian capitulation will not stop it.
 
Simplest way for Zelenskyy to get out of it is to offer a vote to his people - will they accept it or not? I think we all know the answer.
It might seem "simple", but about those in the Donbas and Crimea, how do they get a vote, after all they are Ukrainians, and I suspect a lot less of them would vote for russian supporting views now than in 2014 when all this shit actually started.
 

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