Russian invasion of Ukraine

CTID1977 said:
all of them were made in soviet time, cunts will not replace them
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Last built in 1994. So even the newest is over 30 years old.
I doubt there’s many of those 27 left that are in a fit state to fly.

However, they are not a threat to Ukraine, as they are entirely the wrong platform for offence against a mainly land based or water drone based enemy. But it’s still good to take out expensive un replaceable stuff
 
If things continue along their current trajectory then the Russians are going to become increasingly inclined to engage in discussions that resile from their hitherto absurd, maximalist demands, which presumably will incorporate a freezing of the current lines with the fortress towns being retained by Ukraine, which is obviously crucial.

Difficult to see what is in Ukraine’s best interests at that point. On the one hand the country is plainly exhausted by a conflict that will have gone on longer than WW1 by next month, and the notion that Russian lines are going to collapse appears fanciful. On the other hand, Russia can clearly not be trusted to keep to any agreement it enters into, and the temptation for Ukraine to keep pressing a discernible advantage home will be a strong one.

Honestly don’t know what the right call would be in those circumstances.
 
30/05:

Stuff:
www.dailykos.com

Russian stuff blowing up: Ukraine destroys two Russian Tu-142 Bear bombers

Ukraine destroyed two Tu-142 bombers at an airfield in Taganrog. These planes were reportedly used for anti-submarine duties, but since Ukraine has no submarines it seems likely they had other duties.
www.dailykos.com www.dailykos.com

Day 1557 Review:
www.dailykos.com

Ukraine Invasion Day 1,557: strike campaign on RU supply lines in occupied UKR includes remote mining in depth

Ukraine’s Unmanned Systems Forces released footage overnight: FP-1/2 class strike drones approaching Taganrog military airfield at low altitude, striking in sequence. Two Tu-142 Bear-F maritime patrol…
www.dailykos.com www.dailykos.com
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
If things continue along their current trajectory then the Russians are going to become increasingly inclined to engage in discussions that resile from their hitherto absurd, maximalist demands, which presumably will incorporate a freezing of the current lines with the fortress towns being retained by Ukraine, which is obviously crucial.

Difficult to see what is in Ukraine’s best interests at that point. On the one hand the country is plainly exhausted by a conflict that will have gone on longer than WW1 by next month, and the notion that Russian lines are going to collapse appears fanciful. On the other hand, Russia can clearly not be trusted to keep to any agreement it enters into, and the temptation for Ukraine to keep pressing a discernible advantage home will be a strong one.

Honestly don’t know what the right call would be in those circumstances.
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Ukraine will not collapse, and indeed is getting stronger. Putin will not stop so will drive the the Russian state to collapse or to his inevitable assassination and replacement. But by what?
 
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