Ryan Bertrand

[citizen_maine]

Cudnt we promote foden

He's 17 - he won't need to go on a squad list until he's 21

 

[Neville Kneville]

Don't we need to improve the home grown numbers though??

No.

We can just leave the squad space empty & use U21s.

 

[birchwoodgingerste]

He's 17 - he won't need to go on a squad list until he's 21

Ok cheers

 

[The slaughtered lamb]

Absolutely. He was brilliant against us in the champions league and is still only 20. Only negative is he isnt very tall but he is quick and has a great touch. Dont know what he is like defense wise but he seems to have a "never give up" attitude which would fit with Peps mentality.

I missed his brilliance tbh. Can't remember him in the home game but he looked like a fish out of water against Raheem at Celtic Park; skinned him at will.

 

[CC1]

No.

We can just leave the squad space empty & use U21s.

Let's hope we do - it will be good to start using EDS & Academy players - especially Foden. Might encourage Jadon to stay too??

 

[Kompany Car]

I missed his brilliance tbh. Can't remember him in the home game but he looked like a fish out of water against Raheem at Celtic Park; skinned him at will.

Second goal scored as a result of him (og by Sterling), third goal assisted by Tierney (scored by Dembele). If your measure of a good backup LB is if Sterling can skin them, then we are going to struggle to get anyone. On his day Raz can stroll past anyone due to his pace. That includes Mendy who we have just spent north of £50m on.
As i said going forwards he looks great not sure about the defensive side however, but still think he is worth a punt.

 

[The slaughtered lamb]

Second goal scored as a result of him (og by Sterling), third goal assisted by Tierney (scored by Dembele). If your measure of a good backup LB is if Sterling can skin them, then we are going to struggle to get anyone. On his day Raz can stroll past anyone due to his pace. That includes Mendy who we have just spent north of £50m on.
As i said going forwards he looks great not sure about the defensive side however, but still think he is worth a punt.

The second goal was pure dumb luck so if we're going to use that as an example of 'good going forward' we're also in trouble. We were also shite as a team that night, so probably not the best example. It looks like Pep is trying to introduce real competition for places in every position - Tierney's defending is beyond pants and he's nowhere near at the level of Mendy so barring long-term injury he wouldn't get a chance.

 

[Kompany Car]

The second goal was pure dumb luck so if we're going to use that as an example of 'good going forward' we're also in trouble. We were also shite as a team that night, so probably not the best example. It looks like Pep is trying to introduce real competition for places in every position - Tierney's defending is beyond pants and he's nowhere near at the level of Mendy so barring long-term injury he wouldn't get a chance.

By 'eck that took a while fella :-) . To be fair Bertrand is by far the best option but unless we pay through to nose or suddenly start playing our football at Clanfield cannot see it happening. Struggling otherwise to think of any British half decent LB who would be also happy to sit on the bench for 50% of the time. If we go non British then my first choice would be Henrichs from Leverkusen (similar to mendy, tall, well 6ft and quite physical) then Gaya from Valencia or Grimaldo from Benfica but they are a bit on the small side. God knows how much any of those are gonna cost though.

 

[The slaughtered lamb]

By 'eck that took a while fella :-) . To be fair Bertrand is by far the best option but unless we pay through to nose or suddenly start playing our football at Clanfield cannot see it happening. Struggling otherwise to think of any British half decent LB who would be also happy to sit on the bench for 50% of the time. If we go non British then my first choice would be Henrichs from Leverkusen (similar to mendy, tall, well 6ft and quite physical) then Gaya from Valencia or Grimaldo from Benfica but they are a bit on the small side. God knows how much any of those are gonna cost though.

I know, I don't get on here much ;). I suppose it's moot anyway after the Danilo signing because Bertrand probably won't be coming. Even so, I would guess that doing it week in week out in the prem puts him on a different level to Tierney, at what would be a similar price.

My point was about the Scottish league in general, rather than picking on Tierney. In recent times we've sent a few players up there who have tore it up to the point of winning young player of the year- I'm thinking Guidetti, Denayer, Roberts (not to mention Sinclair winning POTY) and when they come back, they're still considered not good enough to be given a go. To put it into perspective, if Angelino had gone up there a couple of years ago he'd probably be keeping Tierney out of the team. No disrespect to the kid, the Celtic fans love him, local boy done good and wears his heart on his sleeve but if we pay ANYTHING for a young player from that league (and be under no illusions, the price to us would be £20m) we've by-passed crazy, taken a detour round mad and fast-tracked straight to broadmoor.

 

[Chi-town blues]

id go for tierney at celtic if we arent getting bertrand.

+1

 

[fatbloke]

Absolutely. He was brilliant against us in the champions league and is still only 20. Only negative is he isnt very tall but he is quick and has a great touch. Dont know what he is like defense wise but he seems to have a "never give up" attitude which would fit with Peps mentality.

Why not just give Angelino a run? Just as quick, small and probably even better in an attacking sense, not great defensively but doesn't give up either.

 

[geoff clipp]

Why not just give Angelino a run? Just as quick, small and probably even better in an attacking sense, not great defensively but doesn't give up either.

But why do you think Angelino will be anywhere near good enough? He's underwhelmed at NYC, Girona and Mallorca. It'd be great to see him make the grade but there's been very little evidence to suggest he's worth a place in our side when he couldnt hold his own elsewhere. He's gone to Breda now and I'd say this pretty much his last chance to impress. Can't see it happening myself.

 

[ninjamonkey]

Why not just give Angelino a run? Just as quick, small and probably even better in an attacking sense, not great defensively but doesn't give up either.

Because his loans suggest he's absolutely miles away from the required standard. We think too highly of the majority of our youngsters, at the level we're at now, we have to accept the vast majority of players in the academy will not be good enough to even push for a squad place in our first team. We won't sacrifice quality is the message Pep and khaldoon keeps giving us and it's absolutely the right approach for a club that wants to win everything.

 

[better dead than red]

+1

+10

 

[Mad 4 It]

Surely after last night our biggest need is another LB. We will not get away with just 3 all season, just 2 games in and we're short of options already. Sane isn't the answer and it was all there for us to see last night. Bertrand is a must, he's got the defensively qualities we need and an at King threat as well. Best £40 mill we could spend at this stage of the transfer window.

 

[ell]

Yep, get him signed.

 

[Nige's Tatts]

Surely after last night our biggest need is another LB. We will not get away with just 3 all season, just 2 games in and we're short of options already. Sane isn't the answer and it was all there for us to see last night. Bertrand is a must, he's got the defensively qualities we need and an at King threat as well. Best £40 mill we could spend at this stage of the transfer window.

This 100%, we didn't make it to two whole matches played before it became a problem, to have ONE FULLBACK in the entire squad and not even kids to call on for only the third match of the season is laughable. A LB or at very least a left footed CB who can fill in there is absolutely vital.

 

[Easy]

30m will be enough. Get it done.

Mendy had some injuries last season. We have no back up for him. Sane is terrible there and Danilo's left is simply not good enough.

Much better value than signing Evans.

 

[MeatHunterrr]

30m will be enough. Get it done.

Mendy had some injuries last season. We have no back up for him. Sane is terrible there and Danilo's left is simply not good enough.

Much better value than signing Evans.

30m wont be enough. southampton would ask around 50m this late in the window.

 

[Nige's Tatts]

30m wont be enough. southampton would ask around 50m this late in the window.

Bang on, we've managed to put ourselves in the same position with Bertrand as we did with Walker after Alves stitched us up, Soton know we are desperate now and have us by the bollocks.