Sacking Mancini... was there even a choice?

[BringBackSwales]

If he'd been given another year then Kompany, Yaya & Aguero would all certainly have left and probably a few others as well.

even though Yaya is quoted as having been the one (one of the ones) who stuck up for Mancini?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

If he'd been given another year then Kompany, Yaya & Aguero would all certainly have left and probably a few others as well.

even though Yaya is quoted as having been the one (one of the ones) who stuck up for Mancini?

I simply don't believe that story. I believe the final decision to sack Mancini was taken around April 3rd. Two days later Yaya agreed to sign a new contract.

 

[BringBackSwales]

If he'd been given another year then Kompany, Yaya & Aguero would all certainly have left and probably a few others as well.

even though Yaya is quoted as having been the one (one of the ones) who stuck up for Mancini?

I simply don't believe that story. I believe the final decision to sack Mancini was taken around April 3rd. Two days later Yaya agreed to sign a new contract.

But as your last post suggests, you do believe some stories and you say that nearly every first team player wanted him out - how do you KNOW all these stories are true? (and I am not having a pop by the way)

 

[Sir peace frog]

spot on. so he upset players. slur alex has never done that has he? and clough revie shankley etc. ffs. mancini won us trophies. end of. so some prima donnas didn't like it that he didn't hug them. and imo joe hart should shut the fuck up and concentrate on his job and his distribution for instance rather than trying to be the manager as he was in madrid. feeling totally pissed off with the players as this season ends not the ex- manager who was in charge when we won things i never thought i would see in my lifetime.

Upsetting players for me isn't an issue, but I think he just upset everyone by all accounts, sometimes you need to pick your fights. As regards yesterday well imo that debacle can't be blamed on Mancini and the only people who should take the blame for that performance is the players themselves, although the substitution of Tevez (I can only assume he was injured) was pivitol as it has been in virtually every game this season. If I was him I would leave us in the summer thats for sure. Joe Hart yesterday showed that behind a second rate defence he's vulnerable. As soon as the team hasn't got Silva, Kompany and Aguero in it we become a very ordinary side, and that has to be rectified in the summer, plus the acquisition of a goalkeeper which can really challenge Hart for that number 1 spot. I don't know what it is, perhaps his youthful arrogance but I'm starting to get a downer on Hart. I don't want to but I just am.

your stating the bleeding obvious,if we didnt have hart,kompany,yaya,aguero ect ect ect,we do have them and we are not an average team.

as for hart and having a downer,take a look at yesterdays defending,lescott and richards fucking diabolical,now can people see why lescott was fucked off this season for nasty,he is like a piece of wood.

 

[adrianr]

Failing to register how the debacle against Norwich was Mancini's fault. Can we blame him for team selection, formation and failure to motivate the players - all the usual avenues of attack. Nope. The hated Mancini is gone, we should have been playing out of our skins yesterday. Instead, we get a sad lacklustre farce with some extremely shoddy goals conceded that would embarrass a pub team.

totally agree. from the selection alone we showed we were not interested, and Norwich knew that. bob would not have lost that game.

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If he'd been given another year then Kompany, Yaya & Aguero would all certainly have left and probably a few others as well.

quite possibly but had he got his players last year and he did win the double he would also got a lot further in the CL, those players would be mad to leave such a successful club.

To be fair with the exclusion of possibly Yaya (dependent on wages) any of them know they could walk into an equally successful club tomorrow if they wanted. Mancini should have got some first choice targets but should have also been able to both motivate the same group of players for a second tilt at the title and adapted our play more intelligently (rather than persisting with a 3-5-2 system everyone noticeably hated nor properly understood).

And the comparisons with Mourinho can continue, though we're not having problems with the players now because they all loved Mancini and didn't want him to leave, we're having problems because the working environment was so tense and destructive everyone is biting each others heads off. We need to get Pellegrini and his team in asap to plug these holes because if we let it fester over summer we're going to start the season like shit and be out of the race before you know it.

 

[BringBackSwales]

If he'd been given another year then Kompany, Yaya & Aguero would all certainly have left and probably a few others as well.

even though Yaya is quoted as having been the one (one of the ones) who stuck up for Mancini?

I simply don't believe that story. I believe the final decision to sack Mancini was taken around April 3rd. Two days later Yaya agreed to sign a new contract.

as you seem to be well informed PB (and again I am not having a go at you) there were 2 rumours I heard this season regarding team morale (1) Southampton away - Kompany was injured, Zaba had been stand in captain, then Yaya came back and was immediately made captain over Zaba - I heard a lot of the first team players were really pissed off by this, and certainly the performance was extremely poor and half hearted - do you believe there was anything in this? (2) the shit really hit the fan the Friday before the cup final, and I heard tell that it went down hugely badly with the players that Pantimillion was not being selected to play, and that may have had a significant bearing on this - any truth in that to the best of your knowledge?

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

even though Yaya is quoted as having been the one (one of the ones) who stuck up for Mancini?

I simply don't believe that story. I believe the final decision to sack Mancini was taken around April 3rd. Two days later Yaya agreed to sign a new contract.

as you seem to be well informed PB (and again I am not having a go at you) there were 2 rumours I heard this season regarding team morale (1) Southampton away - Kompany was injured, Zaba had been stand in captain, then Yaya came back and was immediately made captain over Zaba - I heard a lot of the first team players were really pissed off by this, and certainly the performance was extremely poor and half hearted - do you believe there was anything in this? (2) the shit really hit the fan the Friday before the cup final, and I heard tell that it went down hugely badly with the players that Pantimillion was not being selected to play, and that may have had a significant bearing on this - any truth in that to the best of your knowledge?

Making Yaya captain was a shocker of a decision in my opinion. Can't imagine why he did that but I guess there might be something in the fact that Yaya tried to stick up for him. After all, he always played and was never subbed.

His treatment of Pants was shocking as well, having told him he would be playing. I had heard they were also upset about his treatment of Lescott.

You can afford to upset people while your results speak for themselves but when they don't, you won't have many friends to support you.

 

[BringBackSwales]

I simply don't believe that story. I believe the final decision to sack Mancini was taken around April 3rd. Two days later Yaya agreed to sign a new contract.

as you seem to be well informed PB (and again I am not having a go at you) there were 2 rumours I heard this season regarding team morale (1) Southampton away - Kompany was injured, Zaba had been stand in captain, then Yaya came back and was immediately made captain over Zaba - I heard a lot of the first team players were really pissed off by this, and certainly the performance was extremely poor and half hearted - do you believe there was anything in this? (2) the shit really hit the fan the Friday before the cup final, and I heard tell that it went down hugely badly with the players that Pantimillion was not being selected to play, and that may have had a significant bearing on this - any truth in that to the best of your knowledge?

Making Yaya captain was a shocker of a decision in my opinion. Can't imagine why he did that but I guess there might be something in the fact that Yaya tried to stick up for him. After all, he always played and was never subbed.

His treatment of Pants was shocking as well, having told him he would be playing. I had heard they were also upset about his treatment of Lescott.

You can afford to upset people while your results speak for themselves but when they don't, you won't have many friends to support you.

I hear what you are saying, and as you know I do not agree with you. I have never in 5k posts been critical of City players before, but I tend to think that their recent behaviour has been a disgrace if they have deliberately not played their hearts out. Regarding Pants I actually am one of the few who shared Bobby's view - I think he would have played had he not (apparently) opened up to the media about wanting to leave at the end of the season - that was a silly thing to do, although it may well have been without bad intention, but he immediately made it a different decision for Bobby - do I play the guy who has told the world he wants to leave and piss off the guy who is staying or not - I would have played Hart (but I may have been wrong too!). For sure we seem to have a squad with significant amounts of disunity, unlike the scum and Chelsea, and I reckon the new manager will have to work miracles for us to win the title next year, but let's hope he does

 

[Anonymous]

When even support/behind the scenes staff are celebrating the managers departure then it's very apparent something was badly wrong with his management and personality.

Moral was on its arse.

The way to improve "moral" is with an "e".

 

[BringBackSwales]

When even support/behind the scenes staff are celebrating the managers departure then it's very apparent something was badly wrong with his management and personality.

Moral was on its arse.

The way to improve "moral" is with an "e".

I was going to mention that too but I have found it is just best to ignore him mate - he just goes on and on about how shit Mancini was, apparently winning the PL is easy