Sacking Mancini... was there even a choice?

[dave_blue12]

I think if United hadn't choked and allowed us to steal the PL from them last season he would have been sacked then - the team were already struggling to produce the early season form.

If we get Pellegini and I really hope we do, then I think we will see what this squad is really capable of.

 

[Balti]

of course there was a choice

this is a huge gamble

hopefully it will pay off but the new managers CV and in particular his sole success in europe being an inter-toto cup a decade ago, does not inspire a huge amount of confidence or indeed much justification for giving Bobby the push

 

[GaudinoMotors]

I think if United hadn't choked and allowed us to steal the PL from them last season he would have been sacked then - the team were already struggling to produce the early season form.

If we get Pellegini and I really hope we do, then I think we will see what this squad is really capable of.

United choked and we stole it then! Perhaps we should apologise or the prem should put an asterix next to our name on the cup.
We beat them twice - thrashed them and played the best football. United lost matches - like we did this year.

 

[dave_blue12]

I think if United hadn't choked and allowed us to steal the PL from them last season he would have been sacked then - the team were already struggling to produce the early season form.

If we get Pellegini and I really hope we do, then I think we will see what this squad is really capable of.

United choked and we stole it then! Perhaps we should apologise or the prem should put an asterix next to our name on the cup.
We beat them twice - thrashed them and played the best football. United lost matches - like we did this year.

Paint it anyway you like but after the Arsenal game in which we were woeful very few City fans thought we had any chance. United lost to us, Wigan and drew with Everton which enabled us to claw back the 8 point deficit by winning all our games.

We managed to put that run together to snatch it but the writing was well and truly on the wall with how the team was playing. In my honest opinion had Utd got a draw at Wigan or we had failed to beat QPR (which of course almost happened) then Mancini may well have been sacked. This season has just continued the pattern that was set in the second part of last season.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

I think if United hadn't choked and allowed us to steal the PL from them last season he would have been sacked then - the team were already struggling to produce the early season form.

If we get Pellegini and I really hope we do, then I think we will see what this squad is really capable of.

United choked and we stole it then! Perhaps we should apologise or the prem should put an asterix next to our name on the cup.
We beat them twice - thrashed them and played the best football. United lost matches - like we did this year.

Paint it anyway you like but after the Arsenal game in which we were woeful very few City fans thought we had any chance. United lost to us, Wigan and drew with Everton which enabled us to claw back the 8 point deficit by winning all our games.

We managed to put that run together to snatch it but the writing was well and truly on the wall with how the team was playing. In my honest opinion had Utd got a draw at Wigan or we had failed to beat QPR (which of course almost happened) then Mancini may well have been sacked. This season has just continued the pattern that was set in the second part of last season.

You choose to say we snatched out greatest achievement then if you want. I'll look at the footaball we played,the goals we scored and the resiliance and fight we showed at the end of the season when it mattered. I wish we had continued the pattern - that comment of yours is plain wrong or at best misleading.

 

[dave_blue12]

United choked and we stole it then! Perhaps we should apologise or the prem should put an asterix next to our name on the cup.
We beat them twice - thrashed them and played the best football. United lost matches - like we did this year.

Paint it anyway you like but after the Arsenal game in which we were woeful very few City fans thought we had any chance. United lost to us, Wigan and drew with Everton which enabled us to claw back the 8 point deficit by winning all our games.

We managed to put that run together to snatch it but the writing was well and truly on the wall with how the team was playing. In my honest opinion had Utd got a draw at Wigan or we had failed to beat QPR (which of course almost happened) then Mancini may well have been sacked. This season has just continued the pattern that was set in the second part of last season.

You choose to say we snatched out greatest achievement then if you want. I'll look at the footaball we played,the goals we scored and the resiliance and fight we showed at the end of the season when it mattered. I wish we had continued the pattern - that comment of yours is plain wrong or at best misleading.

My view is that we got lucky but I still believe we deserved that luck. I also think the points you highlight - the football we played and the resilience we showed - point to us winning the PL again with the core of the same squad, albeit under a better Manager (M. Pellegrini)

I, for one, am really looking forward to next season

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Paint it anyway you like but after the Arsenal game in which we were woeful very few City fans thought we had any chance. United lost to us, Wigan and drew with Everton which enabled us to claw back the 8 point deficit by winning all our games.

We managed to put that run together to snatch it but the writing was well and truly on the wall with how the team was playing. In my honest opinion had Utd got a draw at Wigan or we had failed to beat QPR (which of course almost happened) then Mancini may well have been sacked. This season has just continued the pattern that was set in the second part of last season.

You choose to say we snatched out greatest achievement then if you want. I'll look at the footaball we played,the goals we scored and the resiliance and fight we showed at the end of the season when it mattered. I wish we had continued the pattern - that comment of yours is plain wrong or at best misleading.

My view is that we got lucky but I still believe we deserved that luck. I also think the points you highlight - the football we played and the resilience we showed - point to us winning the PL again with the core of the same squad, albeit under a better Manager (M. Pellegrini)

I, for one, am really looking forward to next season

You are clearly a Pellegrini man - but you don't have to disrespect Mancini's achievements in order to back your man. Even us "inners" accept it's over and hope whoever comes in is the right choice. But - tell me - why are you so totally convinced that Pellegrini will be the right choice - based on what? I acknowledge he is a decent manager or we wouldn't be entertaining him - but why (as you have posted elsewhere) so sure he'll win us the title next year??
Based on hope or on an insight we don't have?

 

[dave_blue12]

You choose to say we snatched out greatest achievement then if you want. I'll look at the footaball we played,the goals we scored and the resiliance and fight we showed at the end of the season when it mattered. I wish we had continued the pattern - that comment of yours is plain wrong or at best misleading.

My view is that we got lucky but I still believe we deserved that luck. I also think the points you highlight - the football we played and the resilience we showed - point to us winning the PL again with the core of the same squad, albeit under a better Manager (M. Pellegrini)

I, for one, am really looking forward to next season

You are clearly a Pellegrini man - but you don't have to disrespect Mancini's achievements in order to back your man. Even us "inners" accept it's over and hope whoever comes in is the right choice. But - tell me - why are you so totally convinced that Pellegrini will be the right choice - based on what? I acknowledge he is a decent manager or we wouldn't be entertaining him - but why (as you have posted elsewhere) so sure he'll win us the title next year??
Based on hope or on an insight we don't have?

I mean no disrespect to Bob but the facts are there for all to see. I actually like the guy and took a long time to become an 'outer' but the turgid football being played by what I believe is the best team in the PL pushed me there eventually.

My belief for next season is built on 3 things. I am not itk.

1. My belief in our squad. They are capable of great resilience and of playing fantastic football.
2. Pellegrini, from what everyone says about him, seems to be a manager who gets the best out of people.
3. I am an optimist

I will forever be grateful to Roberto Mancini for turning City into winners but I do believe his work was done it was time for him to move on.

P.S. I do not want Maureen who I think may struggle second time around at Chelsea

 

[GaudinoMotors]

My view is that we got lucky but I still believe we deserved that luck. I also think the points you highlight - the football we played and the resilience we showed - point to us winning the PL again with the core of the same squad, albeit under a better Manager (M. Pellegrini)

I, for one, am really looking forward to next season

I think Mancini had to to
You are clearly a Pellegrini man - but you don't have to disrespect Mancini's achievements in order to back your man. Even us "inners" accept it's over and hope whoever comes in is the right choice. But - tell me - why are you so totally convinced that Pellegrini will be the right choice - based on what? I acknowledge he is a decent manager or we wouldn't be entertaining him - but why (as you have posted elsewhere) so sure he'll win us the title next year??
Based on hope or on an insight we don't have?

I mean no disrespect to Bob but the facts are there for all to see. I actually like the guy and took a long time to become an 'outer' but the turgid football being played by what I believe is the best team in the PL pushed me there eventually.

My belief for next season is built on 3 things. I am not itk.

1. My belief in our squad. They are capable of great resilience and of playing fantastic football.
2. Pellegrini, from what everyone says about him, seems to be a manager who gets the best out of people.
3. I am an optimist

I will forever be grateful to Roberto Mancini for turning City into winners but I do believe his work was done it was time for him to move on.

P.S. I do not want Maureen who I think may struggle second time around at Chelsea

Fair enough.

But your optimism isn't based on anything tangible - just hope. Nothing wrong with that - you need hope if you're a City fan. I think you are right about Mancini's work being done - but I think his work was done with certain players who weren't prepared to have such a hard and at times harsh task master. Manager unpopularity with factions of players isn't always a bad thing if you allow the manager to weed out the one's who won't accept demands for excellence. Perhaps you are also right that the players will respond to a more populist approach - but this method may be good in the short term a la Redknapp and Keegan, but tends to paper over the cracks longer term.

 

[Anonymous]

I think Mancini had to to
You are clearly a Pellegrini man - but you don't have to disrespect Mancini's achievements in order to back your man. Even us "inners" accept it's over and hope whoever comes in is the right choice. But - tell me - why are you so totally convinced that Pellegrini will be the right choice - based on what? I acknowledge he is a decent manager or we wouldn't be entertaining him - but why (as you have posted elsewhere) so sure he'll win us the title next year??
Based on hope or on an insight we don't have?

I mean no disrespect to Bob but the facts are there for all to see. I actually like the guy and took a long time to become an 'outer' but the turgid football being played by what I believe is the best team in the PL pushed me there eventually.

My belief for next season is built on 3 things. I am not itk.

1. My belief in our squad. They are capable of great resilience and of playing fantastic football.
2. Pellegrini, from what everyone says about him, seems to be a manager who gets the best out of people.
3. I am an optimist

I will forever be grateful to Roberto Mancini for turning City into winners but I do believe his work was done it was time for him to move on.

P.S. I do not want Maureen who I think may struggle second time around at Chelsea

Fair enough.

But your optimism isn't based on anything tangible - just hope. Nothing wrong with that - you need hope if you're a City fan. I think you are right about Mancini's work being done - but I think his work was done with certain players who weren't prepared to have such a hard and at times harsh task master. Manager unpopularity with factions of players isn't always a bad thing if you allow the manager to weed out the one's who won't accept demands for excellence. Perhaps you are also right that the players will respond to a more populist approach - but this method may be good in the short term a la Redknapp and Keegan, but tends to paper over the cracks longer term.

With respect I think we've established that Mancini's way is also only workable short term.

Also, the notion that Pellegrini is some wimpy populist manager is ridiculous. At Villareal when he arrived their hero in the team was Riquelme. Their most influential player and their most popular. However he didn't put the work in in training and didn't follow instructions and was quickly dropped and then sold.

Generally managers aren't so binary that they're either ruthless dictators or player doormats.

 

[bluemathlady]

Would love MP to push Yaya out of that hammock of his

 

[Monkfish]

Not sure you can look at Pellegrinis record and say there in nothing tangible, he does appear to have overachieved at every club he has been at, admittedly not overachieved with silverware but overachieved all the same

Did Mancini overachieve at Inter and City? Not sure

On the downside you could also argue Moyes overachieved with Everton without silverware, so we might be getting a Chilean Moyes!

 

[GaudinoMotors]

I mean no disrespect to Bob but the facts are there for all to see. I actually like the guy and took a long time to become an 'outer' but the turgid football being played by what I believe is the best team in the PL pushed me there eventually.

My belief for next season is built on 3 things. I am not itk.

1. My belief in our squad. They are capable of great resilience and of playing fantastic football.
2. Pellegrini, from what everyone says about him, seems to be a manager who gets the best out of people.
3. I am an optimist

I will forever be grateful to Roberto Mancini for turning City into winners but I do believe his work was done it was time for him to move on.

P.S. I do not want Maureen who I think may struggle second time around at Chelsea

Fair enough.

But your optimism isn't based on anything tangible - just hope. Nothing wrong with that - you need hope if you're a City fan. I think you are right about Mancini's work being done - but I think his work was done with certain players who weren't prepared to have such a hard and at times harsh task master. Manager unpopularity with factions of players isn't always a bad thing if you allow the manager to weed out the one's who won't accept demands for excellence. Perhaps you are also right that the players will respond to a more populist approach - but this method may be good in the short term a la Redknapp and Keegan, but tends to paper over the cracks longer term.

With respect I think we've established that Mancini's way is also only workable short term.

Also, the notion that Pellegrini is some wimpy populist manager is ridiculous. At Villareal when he arrived their hero in the team was Riquelme. Their most influential player and their most popular. However he didn't put the work in in training and didn't follow instructions and was quickly dropped and then sold.

Generally managers aren't so binary that they're either ruthless dictators or player doormats.

A little bit of me dies when I see you've commented - and even more so these days, now that you have persuaded yourself that all your animosity and diatribes at every opportunity were for the greater good.
When was it established (BY YOU) that Mancini's way was only workable short term? - FA Cup Final and 2nd in the league is hardly calamitous - not brilliant but not disastrous.
I didn't say he was "wimpy" if you read in context you'll garner that I'm hoping he isn't.
You're clearly sold on Pele and I hope you're right - but don't pretend you are an expert on him - you didn't mention him (until the paper rumours) during your entire campiagn against the City manager.

I await to see how you will re-invent yourself next season to remain on your pedestal of self-importance.

Don't bother responding
(awaits lecture on how this is a forum)

 

[citygirl77]

Reading the ins & outs of whats gone on, I think there has been good and bad on both sides Managers are there to manage (cant have pals on the team) players are there to play and the upstairs guys are there to run the club, all are there to do a job and to remember who pays them their wages, US the supporters who put them in their flash homes and cars, and I demand value for money, Not a manager that spends to much time on one player at the expense of others, and Not a team that comes out and plays like a Sunday league team (although some of them played better than City against Norwich) I want top guys that know how to run my club and try to get the best players they can. I really wanted Bobby Manc to stay and to start giving us some stability in the club.
Not go back to the days when we have more managers than Chelsea. But I suppose giving Bobby 2 more games, was just to much to ask for. US supporters have given MCFC years of loyal support, WHERE is the loyalty from MCFC to us the people who without us would be NO MCFC.


Rambling
I know but THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES BOBBY MANC.

 

[Anonymous]

Fair enough.

But your optimism isn't based on anything tangible - just hope. Nothing wrong with that - you need hope if you're a City fan. I think you are right about Mancini's work being done - but I think his work was done with certain players who weren't prepared to have such a hard and at times harsh task master. Manager unpopularity with factions of players isn't always a bad thing if you allow the manager to weed out the one's who won't accept demands for excellence. Perhaps you are also right that the players will respond to a more populist approach - but this method may be good in the short term a la Redknapp and Keegan, but tends to paper over the cracks longer term.

With respect I think we've established that Mancini's way is also only workable short term.

Also, the notion that Pellegrini is some wimpy populist manager is ridiculous. At Villareal when he arrived their hero in the team was Riquelme. Their most influential player and their most popular. However he didn't put the work in in training and didn't follow instructions and was quickly dropped and then sold.

Generally managers aren't so binary that they're either ruthless dictators or player doormats.

A little bit of me dies when I see you've commented - and even more so these days, now that you have persuaded yourself that all your animosity and diatribes at every opportunity were for the greater good.
When was it established (BY YOU) that Mancini's way was only workable short term? - FA Cup Final and 2nd in the league is hardly calamitous - not brilliant but not disastrous.
I didn't say he was "wimpy" if you read in context you'll garner that I'm hoping he isn't.
You're clearly sold on Pele and I hope you're right - but don't pretend you are an expert on him - you didn't mention him (until the paper rumours) during your entire campiagn against the City manager.

I await to see how you will re-invent yourself next season to remain on your pedestal of self-importance.

Don't bother responding
(awaits lecture on how this is a forum)

Such a big mouth but you don't want a reply. Fair enough would hate to make you even more bitter than you clearly already are.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

With respect I think we've established that Mancini's way is also only workable short term.

Also, the notion that Pellegrini is some wimpy populist manager is ridiculous. At Villareal when he arrived their hero in the team was Riquelme. Their most influential player and their most popular. However he didn't put the work in in training and didn't follow instructions and was quickly dropped and then sold.

Generally managers aren't so binary that they're either ruthless dictators or player doormats.

A little bit of me dies when I see you've commented - and even more so these days, now that you have persuaded yourself that all your animosity and diatribes at every opportunity were for the greater good.
When was it established (BY YOU) that Mancini's way was only workable short term? - FA Cup Final and 2nd in the league is hardly calamitous - not brilliant but not disastrous.
I didn't say he was "wimpy" if you read in context you'll garner that I'm hoping he isn't.
You're clearly sold on Pele and I hope you're right - but don't pretend you are an expert on him - you didn't mention him (until the paper rumours) during your entire campiagn against the City manager.

I await to see how you will re-invent yourself next season to remain on your pedestal of self-importance.

Don't bother responding
(awaits lecture on how this is a forum)

Such a big mouth but you don't want a reply. Fair enough would hate to make you even more bitter than you clearly already are.

Can't resist can you? - yeah I'm bitter about Mancini going - but unlike you I'll get over it and back the new manager - something you couldn't do even when we were winning trophies.

 

[Anonymous]

A little bit of me dies when I see you've commented - and even more so these days, now that you have persuaded yourself that all your animosity and diatribes at every opportunity were for the greater good.
When was it established (BY YOU) that Mancini's way was only workable short term? - FA Cup Final and 2nd in the league is hardly calamitous - not brilliant but not disastrous.
I didn't say he was "wimpy" if you read in context you'll garner that I'm hoping he isn't.
You're clearly sold on Pele and I hope you're right - but don't pretend you are an expert on him - you didn't mention him (until the paper rumours) during your entire campiagn against the City manager.

I await to see how you will re-invent yourself next season to remain on your pedestal of self-importance.

Don't bother responding
(awaits lecture on how this is a forum)

Such a big mouth but you don't want a reply. Fair enough would hate to make you even more bitter than you clearly already are.

Can't resist can you? - yeah I'm bitter about Mancini going - but unlike you I'll get over it and back the new manager - something you couldn't do even when we were winning trophies.

Can't resist? Wind your neck in big man. I gave a normal reply to a normal post and you began weeping and dying on the inside. Act like a fanny and you'll get treated like one.

 

[GaudinoMotors]

Such a big mouth but you don't want a reply. Fair enough would hate to make you even more bitter than you clearly already are.

Can't resist can you? - yeah I'm bitter about Mancini going - but unlike you I'll get over it and back the new manager - something you couldn't do even when we were winning trophies.

Can't resist? Wind your neck in big man. I gave a normal reply to a normal post and you began weeping and dying on the inside. Act like a fanny and you'll get treated like one.

Says the poster who's acted like the biggest slapped pussy on here during Mancini's tenure.

 

[OB1]

Can't resist can you? - yeah I'm bitter about Mancini going - but unlike you I'll get over it and back the new manager - something you couldn't do even when we were winning trophies.

Can't resist? Wind your neck in big man. I gave a normal reply to a normal post and you began weeping and dying on the inside. Act like a fanny and you'll get treated like one.

Says the poster who's acted like the biggest slapped pussy on here during Mancini's tenure.

Don't blame Billy for taking a break when he did and I really want to avoid bickering but Billy did give a perfectly straight-forward opinion on an issue and you weighed-in with comments about him.

 

[Anonymous]

Can't resist can you? - yeah I'm bitter about Mancini going - but unlike you I'll get over it and back the new manager - something you couldn't do even when we were winning trophies.

Can't resist? Wind your neck in big man. I gave a normal reply to a normal post and you began weeping and dying on the inside. Act like a fanny and you'll get treated like one.

Says the poster who's acted like the biggest slapped pussy on here during Mancini's tenure.

Are we going to play I know you are but what am I next? Seems a favourite amongst your sort.