Safe standing SPL pilot

[Blue Streak]

If this happens and the like's of Rangers and Celtic take it up then it's gonna open a huge can of worms.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

If this happens and the like's of Rangers and Celtic take it up then it's gonna open a huge can of worms.

In what way?

 

[WNRH]

Re: Safe Standing/SPL

Good news for SPL and those who want standing. Hope Rangers and Celtic implement it and show how good it works.

 

[Halfpenny]

If this happens and the like's of Rangers and Celtic take it up then it's gonna open a huge can of worms.

In what way?

Proof that it can be implemented in large stadiums? Could have implications for the argument in favour of safe standing in England.

 

[Blue Streak]

If this happens and the like's of Rangers and Celtic take it up then it's gonna open a huge can of worms.

In what way?

Proof that it can be implemented in large stadiums? Could have implications for the argument in favour of safe standing in England.

Sorry for the late reply. But this ^

 

[ChesterRdBlue]

I was listening to the radio the other morning and they had the minister for sport on who advised there was no demand for this in England and Wales, the presenter pointed out there was a demand from the fans and he sort of brushed it aside and said oh yes there's some calls from them and in particular the FSF, but it is against the advise of the police and footballing authorities so there would be no call for it in this country, they also debated ticket prices and how standing already happens and how surely it would be safer to have areas designed for standing. The minister just kept saying it is against advise and his priority is safety. I very much got the impression that nothing will happen and if it does it wont be any time soon.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

I was listening to the radio the other morning and they had the minister for sport on who advised there was no demand for this in England and Wales, the presenter pointed out there was a demand from the fans and he sort of brushed it aside and said oh yes there's some calls from them and in particular the FSF, but it is against the advise of the police and footballing authorities so there would be no call for it in this country, they also debated ticket prices and how standing already happens and how surely it would be safer to have areas designed for standing. The minister just kept saying it is against advise and his priority is safety. I very much got the impression that nothing will happen and if it does it wont be any time soon.

The thing is, the authorities (government, FLA, police, Prem League) keep saying ''there is no demand'' beause they keep supressing that demand. Everytime a club comes out and says something in favour of standing they get slapped back down. Clubs (like Everton) who put their heads above the water and got a bashing in their local and media for doing so then keep quiet.
Once clubs see what is going on in Scotland legitimately and safely, with crowds increased and prices down, watch clubs currently not selling out their ground (Sunderland, Bolton, Wigan, Blackburn, Villa, Everton etc, watch them becoming more vocal and then lets see what happens when there is a demand.
QPR and Fulham would be a prime clubs too, to increase the capacity of the ground at minimal costs.
It's going to happen..... for the past 10 years the campaign has been 2 steps forward, 4 back all the time.... now there is a jog on and it's going to get faster :)

The latest news from the FSF here - and please join the FSF (it is FREE!!!)
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[bennyboy]

I was listening to the radio the other morning and they had the minister for sport on who advised there was no demand for this in England and Wales, the presenter pointed out there was a demand from the fans and he sort of brushed it aside and said oh yes there's some calls from them and in particular the FSF, but it is against the advise of the police and footballing authorities so there would be no call for it in this country, they also debated ticket prices and how standing already happens and how surely it would be safer to have areas designed for standing. The minister just kept saying it is against advise and his priority is safety. I very much got the impression that nothing will happen and if it does it wont be any time soon.

The thing is, the authorities (government, FLA, police, Prem League) keep saying ''there is no demand'' beause they keep supressing that demand. Everytime a club comes out and says something in favour of standing they get slapped back down. Clubs (like Everton) who put their heads above the water and got a bashing in their local and media for doing so then keep quiet.
Once clubs see what is going on in Scotland legitimately and safely, with crowds increased and prices down, watch clubs currently not selling out their ground (Sunderland, Bolton, Wigan, Blackburn, Villa, Everton etc, watch them becoming more vocal and then lets see what happens when there is a demand.
QPR and Fulham would be a prime clubs too, to increase the capacity of the ground at minimal costs.
It's going to happen..... for the past 10 years the campaign has been 2 steps forward, 4 back all the time.... now there is a jog on and it's going to get faster :)

The latest news from the FSF here - and please join the FSF (it is FREE!!!)
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.fsf.org.uk/news/safe-standing-receives-boost-from-spl.php?id=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.fsf.org.uk/news/safe-standin ... pl.php?id=</a>

Crowds will not increase in Scotland though.Standing at a game will not make punters come back when the product is crap.Plus most clubs in Scotland cannot afford to make the changes necessary for standing.
Again why should it be cheaper.I would imagine it will cost a fair bit to upgrade any part of the ground to safe standing.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

I was listening to the radio the other morning and they had the minister for sport on who advised there was no demand for this in England and Wales, the presenter pointed out there was a demand from the fans and he sort of brushed it aside and said oh yes there's some calls from them and in particular the FSF, but it is against the advise of the police and footballing authorities so there would be no call for it in this country, they also debated ticket prices and how standing already happens and how surely it would be safer to have areas designed for standing. The minister just kept saying it is against advise and his priority is safety. I very much got the impression that nothing will happen and if it does it wont be any time soon.

The thing is, the authorities (government, FLA, police, Prem League) keep saying ''there is no demand'' beause they keep supressing that demand. Everytime a club comes out and says something in favour of standing they get slapped back down. Clubs (like Everton) who put their heads above the water and got a bashing in their local and media for doing so then keep quiet.
Once clubs see what is going on in Scotland legitimately and safely, with crowds increased and prices down, watch clubs currently not selling out their ground (Sunderland, Bolton, Wigan, Blackburn, Villa, Everton etc, watch them becoming more vocal and then lets see what happens when there is a demand.
QPR and Fulham would be a prime clubs too, to increase the capacity of the ground at minimal costs.
It's going to happen..... for the past 10 years the campaign has been 2 steps forward, 4 back all the time.... now there is a jog on and it's going to get faster :)

The latest news from the FSF here - and please join the FSF (it is FREE!!!)
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.fsf.org.uk/news/safe-standing-receives-boost-from-spl.php?id=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.fsf.org.uk/news/safe-standin ... pl.php?id=</a>

Crowds will not increase in Scotland though.Standing at a game will not make punters come back when the product is crap.Plus most clubs in Scotland cannot afford to make the changes necessary for standing.
Again why should it be cheaper.I would imagine it will cost a fair bit to upgrade any part of the ground to safe standing.

Yes you are correct in that there will be a cost involved (unless a new stand or ground is being built).
If the standing end is being re-designed, you can increase the capacity by 80%. The FSF worked out it would be a one off cost of £80 per fan in that area to pay for the new design. I'm sure there wouldnt be many of those fans objecting to their reduced season ticket price having the £80 added on for the first season and then it's all paid for. With the £80 added on, it should still be cheaper than the current seat they are paying to stand in front of.

 

[bennyboy]

The thing is, the authorities (government, FLA, police, Prem League) keep saying ''there is no demand'' beause they keep supressing that demand. Everytime a club comes out and says something in favour of standing they get slapped back down. Clubs (like Everton) who put their heads above the water and got a bashing in their local and media for doing so then keep quiet.
Once clubs see what is going on in Scotland legitimately and safely, with crowds increased and prices down, watch clubs currently not selling out their ground (Sunderland, Bolton, Wigan, Blackburn, Villa, Everton etc, watch them becoming more vocal and then lets see what happens when there is a demand.
QPR and Fulham would be a prime clubs too, to increase the capacity of the ground at minimal costs.
It's going to happen..... for the past 10 years the campaign has been 2 steps forward, 4 back all the time.... now there is a jog on and it's going to get faster :)

The latest news from the FSF here - and please join the FSF (it is FREE!!!)
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.fsf.org.uk/news/safe-standing-receives-boost-from-spl.php?id=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.fsf.org.uk/news/safe-standin ... pl.php?id=</a>

Crowds will not increase in Scotland though.Standing at a game will not make punters come back when the product is crap.Plus most clubs in Scotland cannot afford to make the changes necessary for standing.
Again why should it be cheaper.I would imagine it will cost a fair bit to upgrade any part of the ground to safe standing.

Yes you are correct in that there will be a cost involved (unless a new stand or ground is being built).
If the standing end is being re-designed, you can increase the capacity by 80%. The FSF worked out it would be a one off cost of £80 per fan in that area to pay for the new design. I'm sure there wouldnt be many of those fans objecting to their reduced season ticket price having the £80 added on for the first season and then it's all paid for. With the £80 added on, it should still be cheaper than the current seat they are paying to stand in front of.

£80 Would have some of the Bluemoaners having a hairy.There was a thread about next seasons price rises a few weeks back,most were not happy about rises even though nothing has been agreed yet.:)