Salary

Sounds like you like the work you do. After 5 months I would be hesitant to make too much out of the situation - especially being a recent grad.

Like others have said: keep working hard, get at least 12-18 months experience, learn as much as you can, then explore your options.

I'm afraid right now you are in a Poker game with not a great hand. Give it a few deals and things will change.

Good luck!
 
Take it up the arse for now and bank the valuable experience and after a year or so if they still haven't offered you a decent wage that experience on your CV will get you an interview with a company that will pay you what you deserve.
 
SkyBlueFlux said:
So far it's gone really well and now I'm answering directly into the CEO,
Then just this week I went to talk to my old line manager.

This is where you are going wrong. You have a direct line into the decision maker yet you are dealing with your old manager?

Take (or create) the opportunity (eg at the end of a scheduled update) to discuss it with the CEO. Do it succinctly, respectfully and constructively and highlight the points just as you have done here.

That way you will get directly from the horses mouth his reasons for reneging on their commitment to you. If you are as valued as you think you are, if he is a decent leader, and if they are the right employer for you - these will all become clear once he gives you his response. Plus you will be satisfied that you've done all you could to get it sorted.
 
Helmet Cole said:
Agree but politely let them know you are dissapointed, stipulate a review in another month or two - perhaps the start of the new financial year. Continue to work hard and don't let this affect your outward attitude or performance. That way you will justify at least the promised raise, or at least have an impressive cv for your next employer.
My guess is that unless you have done something you haven't put in the op your boss is just trying to keep wages within a budget (which will be one of his performance indicators) and you are the unlucky one - nothing personal.

Spot on this.
 
I don't know why this is, but when you're settled into a company, working hard and proving you are indespensible to the company, the powers that be are less inclined to give you the promotion/payrise you feel you deserve.

Weirdly, they prefer fresh blood from other departments and companies when the job's come up, so my advice is - be one of those "new" faces - go for jobs in other departments/companies if you want a decent payrise or career move, it's much easier and effective than trying to convince your management, who think they know all about you already, that you are better than your current pay and position.

I am self employed and have been for about a decade now, but I give this advice to the Missus and my daughter, and it works every time - of course you have the upheaval of new job etc. but the money is always better (of course you wouldn't take a new job if it wasn't, but new employers expect you to ask and receive more than you're currently on, you'd be lacking ambition if you didn't and they wouldn't want you!!).

Once you're in a certain industry, it is normal to move around for money and career, and perfectly normal to come back after a few years, providing you don't burn any bridges. Employers like to know you also have industry knowledge and experience, it makes them feel safer taking you on if all the competition have already done so, and this is a massive part of convincing potential employers you're a safe bet.

The worse thing you can do is put misplaced loyalty in your employers and stick out a job just because you feel like you'd leave them in the poo if you moved on - it's your career, and usually the faceless shareholders who are being inconvenienced - fuck 'em, they don't give a monkey's about you and your life.

If you stick out the current job for at least a year, get experience in all aspects of your department, no one would be surprised as a young, hungry go-getter you felt the need for a fresh challenge and the subsequent reward elsewhere.
 
This was something that really annoyed me in my last job, I moved departments on the promise of salary increases and a knowledge of what other people were earning. I did my time and got to the point where I merited a rise and was given one, not quite what I expected but hey ho, keep my head down and continue doing what I was and it will take care of itself. I then continued to achieve the best results in my particular area, but still wasn't paid what I deserved in comparison to others who were more friendly with the boss and had either come from the outside and negotiated a better starting rate or had been in the team a fair while and secured good rises before the company became a little tighter with the budgets. As we were all more or less just getting our annual percentage wage rise each year and bonuses based on salaries, of course those on more got more.

I made my dissatisfaction known, without pushing it too much and was told of budgets etc, although what I was doing was very much appreciated and they understood my frustration as did others in my team. I think it was a case of each boss being afraid to go up the chain and ask the question, cuts were more preferred to rises. I got a new boss and to his credit he agreed with what I was saying and was asking the question, by this point I had made my decision, looked for and found new work.

The job I am in now is very unionised and everyone earns the same wage for the same work. There should be far more transparency in salaries and workers should be much more prepared to share and work together to get a fair deal for everyone. In my last job we were told not to tell each other of salaries, rises and bonuses, the only people this benefits are the employers and makes for disgruntled employees.

There was the programme on channel 4 recently where all the salaries in a company were revealed and they decided how to pay them, the results were quite interesting.
 
johnny on the spot said:
Knuckle down and make yourself valuable.

Agreed use this job to get yourself a better job.

Always remember it's better to keep quite and be thought a fool, than speaking out and removing all doubt.

My late father once told me, get a reputation for being an early riser and you can then stop in bed all fooking day!!

In other words don't rock the boat keep your powder dry and bide your time until another better opportunity presents itself.
 
Helmet Cole said:
Agree but politely let them know you are dissapointed, stipulate a review in another month or two - perhaps the start of the new financial year. Continue to work hard and don't let this affect your outward attitude or performance. That way you will justify at least the promised raise, or at least have an impressive cv for your next employer.
My guess is that unless you have done something you haven't put in the op your boss is just trying to keep wages within a budget (which will be one of his performance indicators) and you are the unlucky one - nothing personal.


This unfortunately.

Listen to what this guy says, it's good advice.
 

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