Samir Nasri

[Zabbasbeard]

I've seen enough of Nasri. He has the ability (was man of the match in 2 or 3 matches last season and gave us agood half v Newcastle this season)but he does not have the application. Let's get as much money for him in the Summer and in the meantime give a youngster who WANTS to play like Suarez a chance.

 

[LoveCity]

Are you at your best every single day? I doubt it

Exactly when is Nasri at his best though? I think that's what people are asking. With a player on huge wages at a top club you expect a very good performance to be the norm, not the exception. Top clubs do not carry passengers who show up once every eight or so games.

 

[CitizenTID]

If Suarez puts more effort in than Nasri. I'd much rather see Suarez play.

 

[Kid A]

Plays like he doesn't want to be here. Really thought he would do well for us but sadly bar a few games this hasn't been the case.

Hardly surprising, given that he has been in and out of the team and constantly played out of position. Very talented player who may deliver under a new manager in a different system, but given his baggage, I guess we'll attempt to get some of our money back in the summer.

Fingers crossed that Monaco keep winning.

Explain.

He has got no goodwill to draw on. Even Tevez had a small amount when he came back from his period AWOL, because he had given something to the club and the fans in his time here. Not saying Tevez was Mr Popular when he came back, but there was just enough belief in him to keep him afloat.
Nasri has none of this. He hasn't delivered on the pitch or shown enough commitment, and we as fans are unlikely to let this go - this complicates his future here, regardless of his ability.

 

[Rascal]

Are you at your best every single day? I doubt it

Exactly when is Nasri at his best though? I think that's what people are asking. With a player on huge wages at a top club you expect a very good performance to be the norm, not the exception. Top clubs do not carry passengers who show up once every eight or so games.

How many good games does a top player have per season?

Its probably 5 tops

We as fans see things so differently to the management, as we look for different things to them. Zabba is a case in point. Its widely agreed on here he is having a great season. Yet the reason he is having a "great season" is because he is noticable in a way other players arnt.

Last season our players all clicked twice i think, spurs and the rags away, when every player was at the top of there game, that happens so rarely though.

As fans we are not privy to players fitness levels, mental states, personal issues and the like. Just because a lad plays football and earns loads of money for it, it does not ever make them exempt from the world we live in and sometimes as fans we see them as detached from real life and that is wrong.

We have all gone to work and not given our best because of outside factors and we have all performed poorly at work in our time.


You ask for a good perfrmance every week, nobody ever does that. The difference is how good is your players average performance and at our club our average performances are better than everyone in the Prem apart from the rags.

 

[LoveCity]

How many good games does a top player have per season?

Its probably 5 tops

Really? I don't claim to be a football expert but I watch quite a lot of European football and see many top players have very good games almost every week to the extent that a bad game is a real surprise.

Xavi recently had a poor game for Barcelona and I was stunned because he NEVER seems to have a poor game. What I am saying is if you spend £24million and god-knows-how-much in wages you surely don't believe average performances are an acceptable standard?

You ask for a good perfrmance every week, nobody ever does that.

Absolutely not and I agree nobody does that, it's simply impossible not to have an off day every now and again. But I ask for a good performance MORE OFTEN than a bad/average/non-existent performance, which I don't see from Nasri.

The only defense of Nasri is that I think Mancini's tactics have all of our attacking players under performing. All of them look like they badly need liberating via a giant tactical overhaul.

 

[Rascal]

How many good games does a top player have per season?

Its probably 5 tops

Really? I don't claim to be a football expert but I watch quite a lot of European football and see many top players have very good games almost every week to the extent that a bad game is a real surprise.

Xavi recently had a poor game for Barcelona and I was stunned because he NEVER seems to have a poor game. What I am saying is if you spend £24million and god-knows-how-much in wages you surely don't believe average performances are an acceptable standard?

You ask for a good perfrmance every week, nobody ever does that.

Absolutely not and I agree nobody does that, it's simply impossible not to have an off day every now and again. But I ask for a good performance MORE OFTEN than a bad/average/non-existent performance, which I don't see from Nasri.

The only defense of Nasri is that I think Mancini's tactics have all of our attacking players under performing. All of them look like they badly need liberating via a giant tactical overhaul.

No Xavi isnt great every game, his average game is better than probaly most worldwde and thats my point.

The very best players stand up to be counted when its needed ala Nasri against Chelsea. They are capable of that but they wont do it every week as they cant, they arnt Messi are they.

Nasri is a fantastic footballer in my opinion but i feel he is one of those players who needs us to be playing well for him to perform at his best. Messi wouldnt score goals for fun if he played for Stockport County would he?

 

[foreverablue18]

For the amount of money that man is paid, his performances are absolutely inexcusable..

 

[Josh Blue]

I want to stick up for Nasri but I can't.

I can put up with a player having a bad, I don't mind them having a few as long as they keep putting the effort in, keep making the runs, get stuck in and generally keep going.

Nasri goes hiding, I could see him avoiding the action, not marking his man, not finding space and generally not helping his team mates.

James Milner on the other had is not as gifted as Samir but he won't stop trying until he gets it right, makes the runs, makes the tackles, tracks back and will make chance or take his shot. Very admirable is Milner.

It's nothing personal Samir, it might be a confidence thing but I don't really want to see you in the line up for a long time. I would never boo him, I just don't want to see him on the team sheet, anything wrong with that?

 

[LoveCity]

No Xavi isnt great every game, his average game is better than probaly most worldwde and thats my point.

Xavi offers a good level of workrate every game though, Nasri doesn't. Xavi has more talent than Nasri yet still works harder than him. Yes there are different performance levels and yes he may not push himself to his limits every game but it doesn't really matter because his performance levels are always so high. I wouldn't mind if Nasri gave 75% either if that 75% made him a dangerous and productive player for us. But he isn't! He offers very few goals, he offers very few assists, he offers very little direct danger to the extent that teams feel they can leave him alone and gang up on Silva. What is Nasri giving us except reasonable ball retention and tidy passing, which amounts to fook all when we're trying to break down teams?

He simply isn't justifying our outlay on him. Players like Silva, Bale, Gotze, Mata, Iniesta, Hamsik, Cazorla, and Ozil offer more and probably all of them except Silva, Iniesta and maybe Ozil will earn less money than Nasri.

The very best players stand up to be counted when its needed ala Nasri against Chelsea.

You're cherry picking games though. What impact did Nasri have on the derby when we needed him except to pussy out of the wall at the end, costing us the game and dealing a huge psychological blow in the title race? He did step up a few times last season and also went missing quite a lot. This season he's been passenger number one, contributing very little except on VERY few occasions like the first half against Newcastle.

Nasri is a fantastic footballer in my opinion but i feel he is one of those players who needs us to be playing well for him to perform at his best.

He COULD be a fantastic footballer I believe but has a poor attitude and a lazy streak that means we've seen him at his best in what, two or three matches? Spurs, Chelsea... struggling to remember any other games that jump out whereas I can think of many games Silva has had an impact.

Maybe he needs a better motivator or maybe he is just a lazy, stroppy player who we will never get as much out of as we should.