Until the Chelsea game, Gundogans best performance in a City shirt was in 2016 against Barcelona. Since then, he has largely been absolute turd. If we have afforded Gundogan this leeway, why should Foden be any different? Too many people are being blinded by Gundogans semi-decent form over the past month and easily forgetting the dross he has served up for the 2 years previous to it.
If Gundogan continues his improvement, I agree Foden will have his time limited but should he revert back to typical Gundogan, I have no issues with him being binned for Foden.
Half a dozen before he gets the yellow as well.
But maybe then we would not be complacent? This is a side that got 100 points last season. If we are one thing it is grounded.We need to rid the air of complacency that seems to descend on the team when we seem to be in total control, against the top teams in Europe we will not get away with it .
We need to rid the air of complacency that seems to descend on the team when we seem to be in total control, against the top teams in Europe we will not get away with it .
When advantage was taken into account they committed around treble the fouls, a good lot of them cynical fouls to deliberately stop good breaks (that one and another multiple times by the same player on the same break), but received less bookings. Par for the course.It was a pisstake best the end last night when the Schalke defender bundled over Gundo and then ran back towards his own box to take down Sterling. No yellow was given lol. It was the same Schalke defender who had been in the refs face for most of the game. What a surprise!
The pace, mental sharpness and composure will be completely different against a "top team".We need to rid the air of complacency that seems to descend on the team when we seem to be in total control, against the top teams in Europe we will not get away with it .
We would have been screaming for both pens if it had been the other way around.
I'm far from convinced there is an organised agenda against us. I am convinced there is favouritism towards the likes of Madrid and Barca. That feeds into a sense of unfairness. A level playing field and reasonably consistent treatment and decisions towards all clubs would rid us of much of the conspiracy nonsense.
I'm happy with the win. But let's be honest,
We could play shit and still go through IMO. Schalke are garbage. We won't score our first and 3rd goal yesterday against any of the other CL teams still in the competition.
Ah OK B.No, Nastasic and Sane who Dinho ultimately pulled down we’re both just off
Yet the 3 ex-pros on ESPN FC (who are all usually very supportive of City) think it was a penalty:The VAR system last night was an absolute farce. nearly 3 minutes to get to a decision was way to long. Then B.T. Sports talking to MIke Walton the ex ref who says it was a pen, yet all 3 former players in the studio Rio, Jolyen, and Owen all say it was not a pen as Nicolas was moving his hand behind his back. This morning in the Sun newspaper Mark Halsey says, thst thr ref made 2 very bad decisions, 1st that the first pen was not a pen as Nicolas was moving his hand behind his back, and 2nd that Nicolas should not have been sent off without reviewing the tackle.
I though that their was to be a pitch side monitor so that the ref can review all dubious decisions, but it was not working. So once again we find ourselves be stuffed by UEFA.
However well done lads for fighting back and coming out to win the game. Let's all hope that when we play the next game UEFA will have sorted out this farce of there being no pitch side monitor that is not working.
Nah, he shinned it.But the second would be worthy of winning the final.
Think Pep was being sarcastic!Interesting to see Peps views on the decisions.
He says both were penalties.
I have to agree with him in the respect that Fernadinho did commit a foul and the decision was correct. The fact you see similar not given countless times is part of the reason VAR is needed.
The first one is more debatable. Firstly I think it should have been a penalty and the rules should be altered to clarify such in the event of a ball hitting an arm or hand when a shot is on target a penalty should be given. As the current rules stand it was in my view harsh and once again you will often see them not given. The yellow card for such a penalty is harsh in the extreme and of course leaves a player somewhat unjustly a mistake away from a red card as illustrated last night.
There would have been hell up if those penalties were not given in our favour certainly.
The VAR system needs improving and quickly no question because that last night was farcical and to the onlooker simply made the officials look stupid.
Peps remarks on us not being ready for the latter stages surely refer to the fact we are still prone to give poor goals away and the Fernandinho penalty was poor on his part, and the fact that we should have gone there last night and killed the tie off stone dead. As it happens whilst it would take a brave man to bet on Schalke progressing you cannot say the tie is quite done and dusted.
All in all it was not a great performance against a distinctly average side. Infact bordering on a poor performance. Of course what is encouraging is that to win leagues and cups you generally have to be able to summon up a win even when you have a stinker and City did that last night. Had that performance come against one of the main contenders you have to think could we have done the same and would we still be in the tie, perhaps those are along the lines of what Peps thoughts are on the current state of play.
I had a look on the RAWK CL thread this morning.Bbbbbbbbbbbbbwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
You can taste their bitterness.
Lovely jubbly.