school unofficial absence fines

pantalon violet again said:
johnmc said:
Cheaper holidays are more important than a childs education then?

Yes they are , as are teachers strikes and " training days"

Not comparable are they? If you want to outlaw strikes then make a case for that across all industries. Why is training days in inverted commas?
 
BimboBob said:
Cheaper to go out of school time and government crack downs.

We are in the same boat, no kids but as the Wife's a teacher all our holidays are expensive. What would happen if she took two weeks off in September?

We plan ahead, Florida next Easter is already booked and paid for. A lot cheaper this way.


What`s wrong with billing aquadrome you posh fooker
 
johnmc said:
Cheaper holidays are more important than a childs education then?


families spending quality time together on holiday is very important indeed, especially if both parents work. Used to love our fortnight away every year with the kids, made all the juggling childminders and my ex's shift work worth it. The kids have lots of happy memories
 
BlueBearBoots said:
johnmc said:
Cheaper holidays are more important than a childs education then?


families spending quality time together on holiday is very important indeed, especially if both parents work. Used to love our fortnight away every year with the kids, made all the juggling childminders and my ex's shift work worth it. The kids have lots of happy memories

I wont dispute family holidays are of importance - but does it matter where they are then?
 
johnmc said:
BlueBearBoots said:
johnmc said:
Cheaper holidays are more important than a childs education then?


families spending quality time together on holiday is very important indeed, especially if both parents work. Used to love our fortnight away every year with the kids, made all the juggling childminders and my ex's shift work worth it. The kids have lots of happy memories

I wont dispute family holidays are of importance - but does it matter where they are then?


nope not at all but there is no way we could have gone on holiday in school holidays even with both of us working. My youngest is 20 so there weren't fines or anything then. I wanted to take my daughter and her son away this year, she's at college and he is only 2 but there was no way I could afford august prices anywhere nice (not necessarily abroad) so we couldnt go.
 
Taking a kid out of school for a week will have zero bearing on its future, unless its exam time where the possible effect is obvious.
Kids having a family holiday is important and its silly to suggest it fucks up their education, many families cannot go in the designated holidays because of the hike in prices so they have no option.

I doubt there is a single shred of evidence to support the assumption that a week out of school here and there is harmful educationally.
 
Blue Til Death said:
Taking a kid out of school for a week will have zero bearing on its future, unless its exam time where the possible effect is obvious.
Kids having a family holiday is important and its silly to suggest it fucks up their education, many families cannot go in the designated holidays because of the hike in prices so they have no option.

I doubt there is a single shred of evidence to support the assumption that a week out of school here and there is harmful educationally.


totally agree with this - whether a child is off ill for a week or on holiday its not going to wreck their education. Im all for fining people who just dont give a shit and don't bother making their kids go to school but for a family holiday of maximum 2 weeks no harm done
 
johnmc said:
BlueBearBoots said:
johnmc said:
Cheaper holidays are more important than a childs education then?


families spending quality time together on holiday is very important indeed, especially if both parents work. Used to love our fortnight away every year with the kids, made all the juggling childminders and my ex's shift work worth it. The kids have lots of happy memories

I wont dispute family holidays are of importance - but does it matter where they are then?

yes, of course it does.

a) people should stop trying to spend other people's hard earned wages for them.
b) people should go where they want to go on holiday, not be lectured by people who tell them to stay in Britain because they deem it interesting or warm enough.
c) The day schools replace all the own clothes days, lessons watching videos and school trips to damp fields with proper work in the last week/10 days of term, is the day a lot of people will actually take that period of time seriously. At the moment it is a virtually irrelevant time of year.
 
BlueBearBoots said:
Blue Til Death said:
Taking a kid out of school for a week will have zero bearing on its future, unless its exam time where the possible effect is obvious.
Kids having a family holiday is important and its silly to suggest it fucks up their education, many families cannot go in the designated holidays because of the hike in prices so they have no option.

I doubt there is a single shred of evidence to support the assumption that a week out of school here and there is harmful educationally.


totally agree with this - whether a child is off ill for a week or on holiday its not going to wreck their education. Im all for fining people who just dont give a shit and don't bother making their kids go to school but for a family holiday of maximum 2 weeks no harm done

As is the way of things, the responsible parents who are not wilfully trying to damage their kids education, just trying to let them have an important holiday with the family, which we all looked forward to as kids, are the ones penalised and pursued, the assholes who don't care a toss are left alone to carry on being arseholes..;-)
 
I was 16 before we went on a family holiday, and coped OK, I cannot see how it's that important to a child's development. I've 3 kids and my wife's a teacher anyway, so going away outside of school holidays isn't an option anyway - but I'd be very wary of giving the kids the impression that going to school is somehow optional, regardless of whether it's the last week of term.

We try to get them to understand that they're lucky living where they do, that education is a gift that a lot of kids don't get and school's just not somewhere you go unless you've got something better to do.
 

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