Schooldays are the happiest days of your life.

The best thing my mum ever did was send me to a private school.

Now people can agree or disagree on the politics of it but if I was a parent (I’m not - me and mrs marsbar both don’t really like kids) it would 100% be going to private school.
I hated mine. Most came from money and had never had to work for anything in their lives. They had no concept of humility or personal possessions.

As I failed at most subjects, teachers told me I’d amount to nothing. I was mortgage free at 41. Lads round here have fathered six kids they never see, been inside, don’t work or are consuming themselves to death. None of that here.
 
What I find interesting about this thread is that it seems to be pretty critical of the 'traditional education' that everyone seems to think we need to get back to.
I dont necessarily think its the education style that people want back. Methods of teaching have certainly improved, particularly for those less able, whether it sufficiently stretches those who are very bright is another matter and that's why I'm an advocate of the grammar school system.

I spent most of my time bunking off because the subjects didn't stretch me enough and with the exception of my Chemistry and Maths teachers who were passionate about the subjects, the rest just delivered the information to pass the exams and nothing more.

The other aspect where I think people harp back to the "traditional education system" is around discipline. The problem is that schools are a reflection of society and they can't fix those societal issues only try to patch them up. I can't remember anyone being stabbed in a school when I was a kid, fights were one on one and whilst you got a few disruptive kids they knew how far to push it, unlike today.

One thing that stood out for me was when talking to my niece who's husband teaches in a primary school near Bramhall Lane in Sheffield. They dont just have the behavioural issues to deal with, which now seem to be worse at an earlier age, but also cultural differences which are ingrained from birth and often at odds with others in the school. At the school there are 38 different languages spoken, with many of the kids parents being first generation immigrants who either dont speak English or only have a basic grasp. Now thats not the fault of people potentially fleeing persecution but likewise it places a massive burden on teachers and staff which detracts from being able to offer an education.
 
Disliked 6th form more than school. Most kids at secondary school lived within a few miles (free bus pass for travelling 3miles+) and from fairly similair areas and backgrounds although there were some visible and invisible divides.
6th form catchment area was much bigger and attracted pupils from more affluent areas of Gtr Mcr, some of whom would spend most of their time sneering at and looking down their noses at people they deemed beneath them.
 
I hated mine. Most came from money and had never had to work for anything in their lives. They had no concept of humility or personal possessions.

As I failed at most subjects, teachers told me I’d amount to nothing. I was mortgage free at 41. Lads round here have fathered six kids they never see, been inside, don’t work or are consuming themselves to death. None of that here.
You must have had decent income to be mortgage free at 41, or did you save everything and never go out etc?
 
What I find interesting about this thread is that it seems to be pretty critical of the 'traditional education' that everyone seems to think we need to get back to.

I feel the opposite. My school was very traditional - we had to wear a proper uniform, called teachers Sir and Miss, stand up when the teacher came into the room and had proper schoolmasters.

I’m in my mid 30s for context.

When I see youth these days not having to wear school uniform, calling teachers by their first name etc and having no sense of discipline or respect it’s no wonder so many of them are feral.

Obviously I can only speak of my own experience which was a fairly sheltered one but going to a very traditional school and doing extra curricular things like Scouts, D of E etc taught me a lot of basic life skills and some discipline, something that loads of kids today completely lack.

Your mileage may vary etc.
 

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