Schooldays are the happiest days of your life.

Johnny Mars Bar said:
The best thing my mum ever did was send me to a private school.

Now people can agree or disagree on the politics of it but if I was a parent (I’m not - me and mrs marsbar both don’t really like kids) it would 100% be going to private school.
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I hated mine. Most came from money and had never had to work for anything in their lives. They had no concept of humility or personal possessions.

As I failed at most subjects, teachers told me I’d amount to nothing. I was mortgage free at 41. Lads round here have fathered six kids they never see, been inside, don’t work or are consuming themselves to death. None of that here.
 
I'm With Stupid said:
What I find interesting about this thread is that it seems to be pretty critical of the 'traditional education' that everyone seems to think we need to get back to.
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I dont necessarily think its the education style that people want back. Methods of teaching have certainly improved, particularly for those less able, whether it sufficiently stretches those who are very bright is another matter and that's why I'm an advocate of the grammar school system.

I spent most of my time bunking off because the subjects didn't stretch me enough and with the exception of my Chemistry and Maths teachers who were passionate about the subjects, the rest just delivered the information to pass the exams and nothing more.

The other aspect where I think people harp back to the "traditional education system" is around discipline. The problem is that schools are a reflection of society and they can't fix those societal issues only try to patch them up. I can't remember anyone being stabbed in a school when I was a kid, fights were one on one and whilst you got a few disruptive kids they knew how far to push it, unlike today.

One thing that stood out for me was when talking to my niece who's husband teaches in a primary school near Bramhall Lane in Sheffield. They dont just have the behavioural issues to deal with, which now seem to be worse at an earlier age, but also cultural differences which are ingrained from birth and often at odds with others in the school. At the school there are 38 different languages spoken, with many of the kids parents being first generation immigrants who either dont speak English or only have a basic grasp. Now thats not the fault of people potentially fleeing persecution but likewise it places a massive burden on teachers and staff which detracts from being able to offer an education.
 
Disliked 6th form more than school. Most kids at secondary school lived within a few miles (free bus pass for travelling 3miles+) and from fairly similair areas and backgrounds although there were some visible and invisible divides.
6th form catchment area was much bigger and attracted pupils from more affluent areas of Gtr Mcr, some of whom would spend most of their time sneering at and looking down their noses at people they deemed beneath them.
 
MCFC Wirral said:
I hated mine. Most came from money and had never had to work for anything in their lives. They had no concept of humility or personal possessions.

As I failed at most subjects, teachers told me I’d amount to nothing. I was mortgage free at 41. Lads round here have fathered six kids they never see, been inside, don’t work or are consuming themselves to death. None of that here.
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You must have had decent income to be mortgage free at 41, or did you save everything and never go out etc?
 
I'm With Stupid said:
What I find interesting about this thread is that it seems to be pretty critical of the 'traditional education' that everyone seems to think we need to get back to.
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I feel the opposite. My school was very traditional - we had to wear a proper uniform, called teachers Sir and Miss, stand up when the teacher came into the room and had proper schoolmasters.

I’m in my mid 30s for context.

When I see youth these days not having to wear school uniform, calling teachers by their first name etc and having no sense of discipline or respect it’s no wonder so many of them are feral.

Obviously I can only speak of my own experience which was a fairly sheltered one but going to a very traditional school and doing extra curricular things like Scouts, D of E etc taught me a lot of basic life skills and some discipline, something that loads of kids today completely lack.

Your mileage may vary etc.
 
dronefromsector7G said:
You must have had decent income to be mortgage free at 41, or did you save everything and never go out etc?
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Or left money from relatives?

Also depends on value of the house. I'd rather owe 300k on a 500k house than be mortgage free in a 150k house.
 
Moved to Nottingham for my last two and a half years of secondary school and wagged it pretty much every day. Eventually came to an agreement with the school that i could swerve most lessons (Ma was a teacher) as long as i played for the footy team.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
Im sorry you (and yours) weren’t able to enjoy life the way I did at Radcliffe Primary, a year at Stand Grammar, then Ashton Grammar & Sixth Form.

Wasn’t all wine & roses, but the only scars I have from those days are the loss of a girlfriend to an asthma attack, giving away my U2 ticket (Manchester Uni, their first trip over!) to a different girl I fancied and my parents not really enjoying the fruits of their extraordinary efforts to get ahead.

I managed to “escape” most of the downside of the 80’s by being in Uni in the States, where Raygun was making Americans feel on top of the world and being a fresh meat Brit at an American Uni was like being in clover.

I have been very fortunate and I’m thankful for that.
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Everyone i know was kicked out of Stand, including my brother and best mate.
 
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