Scott Parker

[The Fat el Hombre]

Would have been another injury prone, short term, abysmal value for money comfort zone signing by hughes. As for him being better than Milner, well there isn't a great deal in it because they're both very good players. Just be happy that we've got the much younger, more versatile one with his best years ahead of him - the grass isn't always greener

 

[gio's side step]

Firstly read my previous post which outlines why he is a better player.

Secondly, please don't waste time suggesting ability is related to age. Age might be a factor in whether someone would sign a player over someone else yes, but I was talking about him being a better player. Not a player worth signing over Milner. I wouldn't sign either ideally. Other than as squad players.

Thirdly, 'Milners attributes suit our style of play'? What utter fucking tripe. Have you been to the home and away games this season? He is the one player who does NOT suit our style of play. No where fucking near.

Firstly I'm on my phone so if I misread or fail to read any comments I apologise as walkin and reading typing on a BlackBerry is very hard even for a 22 year old.

Secondly I agree age doesn't effect attributes in fact I believe that the older you are the more intelligent (as you compare Parker to Milner) you are. However I am a strong believer that a 24 year old does have at least 3 or 4 years left of improvement any age above 28/29 certain abilities tend to drop this may include accuracy of passes/shots, strength, pace ect. You may notice that lately I've been praising Zabaleta's name purely on the reason that he has improved as he has gotten older like I stated before about young players compared to older players, the same can come from Milner as well as our other young lads.

Thirdly yes I have been to the games as I'm a fellow season card holder I feel its my obligation to attend games, I agree Milner hasn't taken off (like a few other young players in our squad) as he started against the bindippers, why? I cannot answer that, but what I can tell you is that I have seen certain aspects to his game that genuinely make me think "I can see why Mancini wanted him and got him".

I will refrain from any arguments as I've read some of your comments in the past and agreed with you so I know you honestly believe in what you say Gio, I can understand your frustration over Milner as can everyone else on Bluemoon as well, Milner hit the ground running at City but unfortunately what he ran into was a brick wall all he has to do is pick himself up brush off the dirt and carry on running again.

It's not that I don't believe Milner will improve, he probably will, but I pose the question, 'improve at what'? He is a versatile player yes, and a grafter. There are a lot of things to be said about those two attributes. But generally speaking, he is an average footballer at the top end of the premier league. He certainly is not an international player in my opinion. So what is he going to improve at specifically? Because I agree, whilst maturity 'should' bring more game intelligence (doesn't with every player), I would argue his versatility is paradoxical, in one sense it makes him valuable, but in another, at the top end, it makes him in my opinion, unpickable in the current City side/system, because there really is not a position for him. People can argue all they want about 'drop Barry for him', but Barry has more composure on the ball, if a little less pace. If Michael Johnson were to get fit and hit some form over the next year or two, I would argue he has far more potential than Milner (in that he can get box to box, but also has more composure on the ball, plays with his head up etc).

I think Milner was a pointless signing, and his performances, in various positions have been very poor to be honest. People were going on after the cup game last week, that he was excellent, our best player. Fucking hell, I went and watched him, and apart from his goal, he was crap. Head down, offside a lot in the second half. It proved how poor he has been, that a goal motivated fans on here to spin some shit that he now excelled in a more central position. Toure is far ahead of him, in a more central dynamic role.

Thus, I apologise for slightly going away from the Parker point, but I was comparing them based on the points I identified. The reason why fans give Milner the benefit of the doubt, is because of his work rate. For him to have played more league games than Johnson is a fucking joke. So what if he tracks back? Arsed. We have a good enough defensive unit, without it being significantly hampered at home, if we dropped Milner for Johnson. That's just one small argument within the bigger picture. The conclusion remains the same. Milner is a player who doesn't really have a position, which he can nail down.

 

[BL2blue]

One of the most overrated players in the league. He's 30 and what exactly has he achieved ? He failed at a big club and wasn't any great shakes at the next level down (Newcastle). If he had this so called talent it would have been noticed and rewarded by now, both at club & international level.

I fail to see why some people rate him so much. He runs around alot which at West Ham makes him their best player. He has no versatility and scores 1 in 13.

Not fit to wipe Milner's boots and for some to put him ahead of Barry is taking the piss.