UK leaves EU; Scotland demands the right to seceed from the UK and rejoin EU.Its interesting how these arguments develop as the majority of opinions are just shared around by us all and used when it suits ;-)
UK leaves EU; Scotland demands the right to seceed from the UK and rejoin EU.
"Totally logical!"
Scotlands leave the UK; Shetland and Orkney demands the right to seceed from Scotland, rejoin UK and keep it's oil.
"Nah, it'll be fine..."
Yeah, but... you're missing the point that YES, you have that right should you demand it and Parliament approves it which I feel, once brexit has been concluded, you should be allowed to hold a vote, but personally I don't feel enough people in Scotland are that keen on independence, especially if we get a deal with the EU.Do you mean like when Scotland and N.Ireland voted to stay in the EU but had to leave anyway? Or at least until it was convenient for Westminster to force N. Ireland to half stay in at least.
Yessers: Independence for UK, or any nation, is a terrible idea!Its almost a circular argument this brexit/scottish Indy one with opinions argued against suddenly adopted when needed.
They might they also might not much has changed since last time. Plus a fair chunk of those against independence last time in Shetland were more interested in independence than remaining in the UK. Some even want to be Norwegian.Shetland and Orkney, if their people decree it, WILL demand a secession referendum, which would win. You've misunderstood the point being made. Shetland and Orkney are not interested in Scottish Independence and would remain in the UK if given the choice and they will demand that choice is given.
If I d said it I would , yes.Yeah, but... you're missing the point that YES, you have that right should you demand it and Parliament approves it which I feel, once brexit has been concluded, you should be allowed to hold a vote, but personally I don't feel enough people in Scotland are that keen on independence, especially if we get a deal with the EU.
I find it hilarious that you're now all suggesting the Scottish Parliament would REFUSE Shetland and Orkney THEIR right to leave Scotland, which they would do given the recent polling, and you see no hypocrisy in this stance.
That's pretty much what the Yessers arguement against Shetland and Orkney is, despite everyone telling them that once Scottish Independence is assured, Shet and Ork WILL demand the right to vote on secession, and given current attitudes, would leave Scotland, to either become self governing as a UKOT, or rejoin the UK completely.If I d said it I would , yes.
Neither you nor I have the slightest clue what current attitudes to the UK outside the EU are on Shetland.That's pretty much what the Yessers arguement against Shetland and Orkney is, despite everyone telling them that once Scottish Independence is assured, Shet and Ork WILL demand the right to vote on secession, and given current attitudes, would leave Scotland, to either become self governing as a UKOT, or rejoin the UK completely.
But the most important point in all of this is that the oil, that the Yesser's claim, does not belong to Scotland. It does currently, as Shet and Ork are part of Scotland, but once they leave, which they would once Scotland becomes independent, the oil goes too. The oil is Scotland's through association with Shetland and Orkney, it's not Scotland's by right. That's what i'm highlighting.
Hence the part about them being a British Overseas Territory.They might they also might not much has changed since last time. Plus a fair chunk of those against independence last time in Shetland were more interested in independence than remaining in the UK. Some even want to be Norwegian.
I'm talking about people needing to stop claiming it as "Scotland's Oil".Neither you nor I have the slightest clue what current attitudes to the UK outside the EU are on Shetland.