Season Ticket Sales look static from last season

[cyclops]

The atmosphere is shit but what do people expect with games kicking off early Saturday, Sundays at 2 and 4 and Monday nights?

The atmosphere is good when people have had a few to drink, which is why its good on Saturday kick offs at 3 and half 5, people have the chance/opportunity to get to the pub before hand and generally there's no work the next day and there's no need to worry about having a bit of a hangover.

Its not rocket science, all this about moving away fans etc is horse shite.

-- Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:36 pm --

Yes, that's correct, i've given a breakdown above.

the club can sell 40,000 season tickets.

IT IS A MYTH THERE IS LOWER CEILING THAN THIS!!!!!!!!!!

The club might set one, they did last year, but they only stopped selling season tickets one week into the season.

40k of 48k is 83% not 95%

I know. But you have to take off the away fans and corporate.

I've broken it down earlier in the thread.

Don't forget segregation too

 

[jrb]

Sorry to be a.............

But not being able to move the away fans had nothing to do with City fans not wanting it to happen, unless that is a fact and has come from secret meetings with OSC's members and other City fans?

City looked at the issue in detail. I was shown a presentation by Danny Wilson who went through the issue/s at length and explained why moving the away fans couldn't be done.

The away fans couldn't be moved for various reasons. Access in and out of the stadium, coach parking, access for disabled fans, catering issues, H&S, policing, FA rules, Council etc. It's not just a case of moving the away fans and it's done. The amount of rules and regulations surrounding such a move is.............(fill in as appropriate)

Not saying all those issues led directly to any move of the away fans being shelved, but some did contrubute to it not happening.

The move won't happen. It will only happen if and when the stadium is expanded. Until then get used to where you are now and the current layout of COMS.(Etihad)

If you were to look to move them to the top tier then that maybe relevant. But accross the south stand is nothing. They sit there anyway for cup matches.

It would be easy to do this for the world's richest club.

If you say so Dave.

Sorry if I sound rude, but I'm more inclined to believe Danny Wilson and what I saw with my very own eyes.

The will is definitely there.(the club) Unfortunately the way the stadium is configured makes the move impractical or impossible, even with a blank cheque.

 

[The Fat el Hombre]

Sorry to be a.............

But not being able to move the away fans had nothing to do with City fans not wanting it to happen, unless that is a fact and has come from secret meetings with OSC's members and other City fans?

City looked at the issue in detail. I was shown a presentation by Danny Wilson who went through the issue/s at length and explained why moving the away fans couldn't be done.

The away fans couldn't be moved for various reasons. Access in and out of the stadium, coach parking, access for disabled fans, catering issues, H&S, policing, FA rules, Council etc. It's not just a case of moving the away fans and it's done. The amount of rules and regulations surrounding such a move is.............(fill in as appropriate)

Not saying all those issues led directly to any move of the away fans being shelved, but some did contrubute to it not happening.

The move won't happen. It will only happen if and when the stadium is expanded. Until then get used to where you are now and the current layout of COMS.(Etihad)

You're right, people in the club used to give us all the excuses about coach parking and policing bullshit but at one point they seemed to entertain the idea of moving the away fans, only to find that a lot of City fans didn't want to move and in fact passionately opposed the idea. There wasn't really a secret meeting but there was a meeting of which a few people on here attended and so did my dad. The club decided it wasn't worth pursuing as some City fans were whingeing like fuck about it. A decent chunk of City fans killed any momentum of it and it was evident for everyone on here to see as there was a poll on here at the time with many of these people on and the poll wasn't exactly a landslide in favour of moving the away fans. It probably would have had to have been a landslide to stand any chance, but was nowhere near

 

[Soulboy]

The arguments about Police, health & safety, access... are all trivial.

We could move the away fans into the opposite side of the South Stand and all the exact same arrangements would still apply.

This is a decision based on "we can't be arsed" rather than anything precluding them from doing it.

Didn't we even have an Atmosphere Action Group... and they suggested soomething similar... which the club duly ignored.

But like a previous poster stated, this will be looked at again when the stadium is restructured and not before then.

 

[Marvin]

I suspect you are on the wind up again. The seat-planner suggests the exact opposite of what you claim. There's only about 3 to 4k left on there, plus whatever is available in the North Stand.

Why would I be on the wind up about something like this?

I've only looked at Colin Bell upper where I sit and there seem to be about the same as last year.

I could be wrong.

I think you are wrong as there are only around 3k seats left online. There will be additional seats in the Family stand that aren't shown online, but even so we must be well ahead of last year.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

Sorry to be a.............

But not being able to move the away fans had nothing to do with City fans not wanting it to happen, unless that is a fact and has come from secret meetings with OSC's members and other City fans?

City looked at the issue in detail. I was shown a presentation by Danny Wilson who went through the issue/s at length and explained why moving the away fans couldn't be done.

The away fans couldn't be moved for various reasons. Access in and out of the stadium, coach parking, access for disabled fans, catering issues, H&S, policing, FA rules, Council etc. It's not just a case of moving the away fans and it's done. The amount of rules and regulations surrounding such a move is.............(fill in as appropriate)

Not saying all those issues led directly to any move of the away fans being shelved, but some did contrubute to it not happening.

The move won't happen. It will only happen if and when the stadium is expanded. Until then get used to where you are now and the current layout of COMS.(Etihad)

If you were to look to move them to the top tier then that maybe relevant. But accross the south stand is nothing. They sit there anyway for cup matches.

It would be easy to do this for the world's richest club.

If you say so Dave.

Sorry if I sound rude, but I'm more inclined to believe Danny Wilson and what I saw with my very own eyes.

The will is definitely there.(the club) Unfortunately the way the stadium is configured makes the move impractical or impossible, even with a blank cheque.

The fact that away fans sit there anyway for cup games proves that this can easily be done. They've bullshitted you.

You can't put them on the top tier very easily becuase it uses the same access routes as tier 1, but that's about it.<br /><br />-- Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:24 pm --<br /><br />

I suspect you are on the wind up again. The seat-planner suggests the exact opposite of what you claim. There's only about 3 to 4k left on there, plus whatever is available in the North Stand.

Why would I be on the wind up about something like this?

I've only looked at Colin Bell upper where I sit and there seem to be about the same as last year.

I could be wrong.

I think you are wrong as there are only around 3k seats left online. There will be additional seats in the Family stand that aren't shown online, but even so we must be well ahead of last year.

I haven't counted to be fair to you. But there look an awful lot more available than that to me.

 

[jrb]

Top tier of the South Stand?

I stand corrected, but the top tier of the South Stand doesn't have disabled access, or a place for wheel chairs. Within FA rules the club have to make provision for disabled away fans.

 

[Marvin]

If you were to look to move them to the top tier then that maybe relevant. But accross the south stand is nothing. They sit there anyway for cup matches.

It would be easy to do this for the world's richest club.

If you say so Dave.

Sorry if I sound rude, but I'm more inclined to believe Danny Wilson and what I saw with my very own eyes.

The will is definitely there.(the club) Unfortunately the way the stadium is configured makes the move impractical or impossible, even with a blank cheque.

The fact that away fans sit there anyway for cup games proves that this can easily be done. They've bullshitted you.

You can't put them on the top tier very easily becuase it uses the same access routes as tier 1, but that's about it.

-- Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:24 pm --

Why would I be on the wind up about something like this?

I've only looked at Colin Bell upper where I sit and there seem to be about the same as last year.

I could be wrong.

I think you are wrong as there are only around 3k seats left online. There will be additional seats in the Family stand that aren't shown online, but even so we must be well ahead of last year.

I haven't counted to be fair to you. But there look an awful lot more available than that to me.

Well I have taken up your challenge. There are 1150 in the 3rd tier of the east stand. Therefore there are 2500 max left on the planner.

 

[uncle charlie wilson]

Yeah definately! I cannot fathom how the club are letting this trudge along, season after season.. Our lack of atmosphere, lack of a big group of vocal fans together and where the away fans are, are the worst part of our club!

I'll tell you why the club don't do anything:

They don't understand the history of the stadium and the Maine Road stands. They don't realise that songs from the South Stand will never catch on around the grund because on the one side they have the old Main Stand, who aren't the singing types. On the other side they have the away fans who make sure that the other side of the ground don't hear them.

Also, the club don't believe the demand is there because of the people who actually sit in the singing ends. When you are in there you think the atmosphere is great. What you don't realise is that a great atmosphere is not 300 lads singing "WHo's the faggot in the pink?", it's a whole stadium booming a song.

So when this debate comes up, the people who are passionately for it are the ones who sit in the main stadium itself rather than the singing areas. These people realise that if a song starts up loud and defined enough it will drift downt he East Stand Side and often get the whole ground going. that's why the better atmospehres at COMS tend to be once the singing and excitement has died a bit. When things are at fever pitch in the stadium all you can hear is a mud of noise - "We are Not really standing alone till I die" from the 2 City ends, and the away fans together.

When both singing areas sing together it will not catch on round the ground.

But the people who sit in the singing areas don't realise this, they think that it's just the rest of the ground being "boring". It isn't.

Sorry, I could go on all day about this. This would make a big difference to our entire club, probably even the performacnes on the field.

You've absolutely nailed it there mate.

I've been banging the drum about the siting of the away fans since we moved from Maine Road.

It's only the blues in the singing section and half of the south stand that struggle to see the benefits of relocating the away fans. Most of them believe the atmosphere isn't an issue, but they only get an extremely narrow perspective of a sample of the atmosphere at each game. They can only hear their own voices.

It's the rest of us, who sit more centrally, or in the northern half of the ground, who get a true and accurate perception of the atmosphere on a match day.

90% of games at home consist of around 500 in the singing section consistently doing there bit for the entirety of the full 90. While the south stand stands in silence for long periods, until there's a point of interest on the pitch.

The noise rarely travels down the east stand, but when it does, and there are those periods where everyone stands up, the atmosphere improves ten fold. On some occasions it will travel as far as the west corner of the north stand and they'll and stand and sing.

But its too intermittent. All of our consistent noise on a match day comes from the southern half of the ground, and it's usually patchy and inconsistent. In the meantime the rest of us are forced to sit in relative silence until the noise travels the length of the east stand and then we're all jumping over each other to stand and sing.

The atmosphere at CoMS [Etihad], IMO is poor, very poor in fact. It's my single biggest bugbear about all things City, it genuinely frustrates me. Despite always being treated like subhuman scum and criminals wherever you visit when you attend an away fixture, I always greatly enjoy myself - certainly much more than I usually would've in a comparative home fixture, regardless of the result. Because it's authentic football. It's what we used to have at Maine Road, an authenticity. CoMS is sterile. It's essentially dived in two, and in recent seasons the club have began subjecting us to Hugh-fucking-Ferris, the Americanisms and the cheese. It frustrates me. Angers me.

With all the empty surveys City peddle out in an effort to 'improve match day experience', what they're actually continuing to do is make many fans match day 'experiences' close to fucking insufferable in some respects.

The first and most crucial thing the club could do to address our the atmosphere issue, and attract the younger kids is move the away fans. It would have a domino affect.

Ditching Hugh Ferris and the failed Wacky Warehouse Stand would help too.

 

[Marvin]

Yeah definately! I cannot fathom how the club are letting this trudge along, season after season.. Our lack of atmosphere, lack of a big group of vocal fans together and where the away fans are, are the worst part of our club!

I'll tell you why the club don't do anything:

They don't understand the history of the stadium and the Maine Road stands. They don't realise that songs from the South Stand will never catch on around the grund because on the one side they have the old Main Stand, who aren't the singing types. On the other side they have the away fans who make sure that the other side of the ground don't hear them.

Also, the club don't believe the demand is there because of the people who actually sit in the singing ends. When you are in there you think the atmosphere is great. What you don't realise is that a great atmosphere is not 300 lads singing "WHo's the faggot in the pink?", it's a whole stadium booming a song.

So when this debate comes up, the people who are passionately for it are the ones who sit in the main stadium itself rather than the singing areas. These people realise that if a song starts up loud and defined enough it will drift downt he East Stand Side and often get the whole ground going. that's why the better atmospehres at COMS tend to be once the singing and excitement has died a bit. When things are at fever pitch in the stadium all you can hear is a mud of noise - "We are Not really standing alone till I die" from the 2 City ends, and the away fans together.

When both singing areas sing together it will not catch on round the ground.

But the people who sit in the singing areas don't realise this, they think that it's just the rest of the ground being "boring". It isn't.

Sorry, I could go on all day about this. This would make a big difference to our entire club, probably even the performacnes on the field.

You've absolutely nailed it there mate.

I've been banging the drum about the siting of the away fans since we moved from Maine Road.

It's only the blues in the singing section and half of the south stand that struggle to see the benefits of relocating the away fans. Most of them believe the atmosphere isn't an issue, but they only get an extremely narrow perspective of a sample of the atmosphere at each game. They can only hear their own voices.

It's the rest of us, who sit more centrally, or in the northern half of the ground, who get a true and accurate perception of the atmosphere on a match day.

90% of games at home consist of around 500 in the singing section consistently doing there bit for the entirety of the full 90. While the south stand stands in silence for long periods, until there's a point of interest on the pitch.

The noise rarely travels down the east stand, but when it does, and there are those periods where everyone stands up, the atmosphere improves ten fold. On some occasions it will travel as far as the west corner of the north stand and they'll and stand and sing.

But its too intermittent. All of our consistent noise on a match day comes from the southern half of the ground, and it's usually patchy and inconsistent. In the meantime the rest of us are forced to sit in relative silence until the noise travels the length of the east stand and then we're all jumping over each other to stand and sing.

The atmosphere at CoMS [Etihad], IMO is poor, very poor in fact. It's my single biggest bugbear about all things City, it genuinely frustrates me. Despite always being treated like subhuman scum and criminals wherever you visit when you attend an away fixture, I always greatly enjoy myself - certainly much more than I usually would've in a comparative home fixture, regardless of the result. Because it's authentic football. It's what we used to have at Maine Road, an authenticity. CoMS is sterile. It's essentially dived in two, and in recent seasons the club have began subjecting us to Hugh-fucking-Ferris, the Americanisms and the cheese. It frustrates me. Angers me.

With all the empty surveys City peddle out in an effort to 'improve match day experience', what they're actually continuing to do is make many fans match day 'experiences' close to fucking insufferable in some respects.

The first and most crucial thing the club could do to address our the atmosphere issue, and attract the younger kids is move the away fans. It would have a domino affect.

Ditching Hugh Ferris and the failed Wacky Warehouse Stand would help too.

Agree in some respects, but the atmosphere last season was very good where I was. best it has been at COMs. the Poznans definitely helped and the new songs eg Balotelli and Dzeko. And of course the football.

I don't like the incessant noise over the tannoy that prevents any pre-kick off crowd noise, but for the 90 mins that really matters it's up to the fans. and no one stops us. Last season was better than very many seasons I spent on the Kippax.

 

[VOOMER]

Why would I be on the wind up about something like this?

I've only looked at Colin Bell upper where I sit and there seem to be about the same as last year.

I could be wrong.

Dave, I' didn't buy my season ticket till August last year, I reckon plenty of people will be the same. Out tickets are excellent value, even the superbia, compare that price and what you get for the same amount anywhere else. I paid £495 for my ticket thats less than last season.
Dave, do you ever go in the Fletchers, or The Nelson?

Hopefully there will be a big last minute rush. I used to be a regular in the Fletchers, partly because I lived within 200 yards. But I haven't lived in didsbury for 7 years mate, and it's all changed now.

You're not wrong, but the nellie is as blue as you could get.

 

[uncle charlie wilson]

I'll tell you why the club don't do anything:

They don't understand the history of the stadium and the Maine Road stands. They don't realise that songs from the South Stand will never catch on around the grund because on the one side they have the old Main Stand, who aren't the singing types. On the other side they have the away fans who make sure that the other side of the ground don't hear them.

Also, the club don't believe the demand is there because of the people who actually sit in the singing ends. When you are in there you think the atmosphere is great. What you don't realise is that a great atmosphere is not 300 lads singing "WHo's the faggot in the pink?", it's a whole stadium booming a song.

So when this debate comes up, the people who are passionately for it are the ones who sit in the main stadium itself rather than the singing areas. These people realise that if a song starts up loud and defined enough it will drift downt he East Stand Side and often get the whole ground going. that's why the better atmospehres at COMS tend to be once the singing and excitement has died a bit. When things are at fever pitch in the stadium all you can hear is a mud of noise - "We are Not really standing alone till I die" from the 2 City ends, and the away fans together.

When both singing areas sing together it will not catch on round the ground.

But the people who sit in the singing areas don't realise this, they think that it's just the rest of the ground being "boring". It isn't.

Sorry, I could go on all day about this. This would make a big difference to our entire club, probably even the performacnes on the field.

You've absolutely nailed it there mate.

I've been banging the drum about the siting of the away fans since we moved from Maine Road.

It's only the blues in the singing section and half of the south stand that struggle to see the benefits of relocating the away fans. Most of them believe the atmosphere isn't an issue, but they only get an extremely narrow perspective of a sample of the atmosphere at each game. They can only hear their own voices.

It's the rest of us, who sit more centrally, or in the northern half of the ground, who get a true and accurate perception of the atmosphere on a match day.

90% of games at home consist of around 500 in the singing section consistently doing there bit for the entirety of the full 90. While the south stand stands in silence for long periods, until there's a point of interest on the pitch.

The noise rarely travels down the east stand, but when it does, and there are those periods where everyone stands up, the atmosphere improves ten fold. On some occasions it will travel as far as the west corner of the north stand and they'll and stand and sing.

But its too intermittent. All of our consistent noise on a match day comes from the southern half of the ground, and it's usually patchy and inconsistent. In the meantime the rest of us are forced to sit in relative silence until the noise travels the length of the east stand and then we're all jumping over each other to stand and sing.

The atmosphere at CoMS [Etihad], IMO is poor, very poor in fact. It's my single biggest bugbear about all things City, it genuinely frustrates me. Despite always being treated like subhuman scum and criminals wherever you visit when you attend an away fixture, I always greatly enjoy myself - certainly much more than I usually would've in a comparative home fixture, regardless of the result. Because it's authentic football. It's what we used to have at Maine Road, an authenticity. CoMS is sterile. It's essentially dived in two, and in recent seasons the club have began subjecting us to Hugh-fucking-Ferris, the Americanisms and the cheese. It frustrates me. Angers me.

With all the empty surveys City peddle out in an effort to 'improve match day experience', what they're actually continuing to do is make many fans match day 'experiences' close to fucking insufferable in some respects.

The first and most crucial thing the club could do to address our the atmosphere issue, and attract the younger kids is move the away fans. It would have a domino affect.

Ditching Hugh Ferris and the failed Wacky Warehouse Stand would help too.

Agree in some respects, but the atmosphere last season was very good where I was. best it has been at COMs. the Poznans definitely helped and the new songs eg Balotelli and Dzeko. And of course the football.

I don't like the incessant noise over the tannoy that prevents any pre-kick off crowd noise, but for the 90 mins that really matters it's up to the fans. and no one stops us. Last season was better than very many seasons I spent on the Kippax.

But that's the problem mate, I'd hazard a guess that you're located in on of the aforementioned areas of the ground, no?

The atmosphere at CoMS last season was its usual self IMO, although I do agree the Poznan certainly had a positive impact.

 

[Deleted member 14625]

You've absolutely nailed it there mate.

I've been banging the drum about the siting of the away fans since we moved from Maine Road.

It's only the blues in the singing section and half of the south stand that struggle to see the benefits of relocating the away fans. Most of them believe the atmosphere isn't an issue, but they only get an extremely narrow perspective of a sample of the atmosphere at each game. They can only hear their own voices.

It's the rest of us, who sit more centrally, or in the northern half of the ground, who get a true and accurate perception of the atmosphere on a match day.

90% of games at home consist of around 500 in the singing section consistently doing there bit for the entirety of the full 90. While the south stand stands in silence for long periods, until there's a point of interest on the pitch.

The noise rarely travels down the east stand, but when it does, and there are those periods where everyone stands up, the atmosphere improves ten fold. On some occasions it will travel as far as the west corner of the north stand and they'll and stand and sing.

But its too intermittent. All of our consistent noise on a match day comes from the southern half of the ground, and it's usually patchy and inconsistent. In the meantime the rest of us are forced to sit in relative silence until the noise travels the length of the east stand and then we're all jumping over each other to stand and sing.

The atmosphere at CoMS [Etihad], IMO is poor, very poor in fact. It's my single biggest bugbear about all things City, it genuinely frustrates me. Despite always being treated like subhuman scum and criminals wherever you visit when you attend an away fixture, I always greatly enjoy myself - certainly much more than I usually would've in a comparative home fixture, regardless of the result. Because it's authentic football. It's what we used to have at Maine Road, an authenticity. CoMS is sterile. It's essentially dived in two, and in recent seasons the club have began subjecting us to Hugh-fucking-Ferris, the Americanisms and the cheese. It frustrates me. Angers me.

With all the empty surveys City peddle out in an effort to 'improve match day experience', what they're actually continuing to do is make many fans match day 'experiences' close to fucking insufferable in some respects.

The first and most crucial thing the club could do to address our the atmosphere issue, and attract the younger kids is move the away fans. It would have a domino affect.

Ditching Hugh Ferris and the failed Wacky Warehouse Stand would help too.

Agree in some respects, but the atmosphere last season was very good where I was. best it has been at COMs. the Poznans definitely helped and the new songs eg Balotelli and Dzeko. And of course the football.

I don't like the incessant noise over the tannoy that prevents any pre-kick off crowd noise, but for the 90 mins that really matters it's up to the fans. and no one stops us. Last season was better than very many seasons I spent on the Kippax.

But that's the problem mate, I'd hazard a guess that you're located in on of the aforementioned areas of the ground, no?

The atmosphere at CoMS last season was its usual self IMO, although I do agree the Poznan certainly had a positive impact.

That's it! Most of my mates stand in the vocal areas - I don't - they think they are the die Südtribüne. But they are so far away from being that it's unreal! It just sounds loud when you're in with it all. I've walked round many times and stood over there (mostly the East corner as I'm only 4 blocks away in 105) and as good as it is being in there with the noise, all you have to do is come over to where I sit in 105 and more often than not you cannot make out what is being sung in them areas that sound deafening when you're in with them! Thus the "atmosphere" doesn't catch on often everywhere else. They are just too small!

 

[citymad]

Agree in some respects, but the atmosphere last season was very good where I was. best it has been at COMs. the Poznans definitely helped and the new songs eg Balotelli and Dzeko. And of course the football.

I don't like the incessant noise over the tannoy that prevents any pre-kick off crowd noise, but for the 90 mins that really matters it's up to the fans. and no one stops us. Last season was better than very many seasons I spent on the Kippax.

But that's the problem mate, I'd hazard a guess that you're located in on of the aforementioned areas of the ground, no?

The atmosphere at CoMS last season was its usual self IMO, although I do agree the Poznan certainly had a positive impact.

That's it! Most of my mates stand in the vocal areas - I don't - they think they are the die Südtribüne. But they are so far away from being that it's unreal! It just sounds loud when you're in with it all. I've walked round many times and stood over there (mostly the East corner as I'm only 4 blocks away in 105) and as good as it is being in there with the noise, all you have to do is come over to where I sit in 105 and more often than not you cannot make out what is being sung in them areas that sound deafening when you're in with them! Thus the "atmosphere" doesn't catch on often everywhere else. They are just too small!

All this makes total sense. Where would you put the away fans to help make the difference?

 

[WNRH]

We may give good value for money compared to other clubs but it's still too expensive. We may be a champions league team but the fans don't have champions league jobs.

 

[CTID1]

get ryanair to sell them, there'll be so many cock ups they'll be giving them away :P

 

[sweep]

Agree in some respects, but the atmosphere last season was very good where I was. best it has been at COMs. the Poznans definitely helped and the new songs eg Balotelli and Dzeko. And of course the football.

I don't like the incessant noise over the tannoy that prevents any pre-kick off crowd noise, but for the 90 mins that really matters it's up to the fans. and no one stops us. Last season was better than very many seasons I spent on the Kippax.

But that's the problem mate, I'd hazard a guess that you're located in on of the aforementioned areas of the ground, no?

The atmosphere at CoMS last season was its usual self IMO, although I do agree the Poznan certainly had a positive impact.

That's it! Most of my mates stand in the vocal areas - I don't - they think they are the die Südtribüne. But they are so far away from being that it's unreal! It just sounds loud when you're in with it all. I've walked round many times and stood over there (mostly the East corner as I'm only 4 blocks away in 105) and as good as it is being in there with the noise, all you have to do is come over to where I sit in 105 and more often than not you cannot make out what is being sung in them areas that sound deafening when you're in with them! Thus the "atmosphere" doesn't catch on often everywhere else. They are just too small!

I've been in 109 since we left Maine Rd, even though people have gravitated toward the south east corner for the atmosphere in the last couple of seasons, most of the time songs don't even make it past 109 aisle let alone any further down the stand. Block 109 has always been a yoyo block, ie stand when we build an attack then gradually sit down again, last season it was noticable that more of the block now stand for 90 minutes (in fact almost the whole block now) but most of these new standers don't actually sing much. I've also sat the odd half/game with friends in 106 and heard people try and get songs going in there - not happening!

The reason songs don't catch on isn't because people can't make out what's being sung, it's because most can't be arsed to sing, it's not unique to City, it's the current football demographic.

 

[blue dallas]

gotta be Mancini's fault then !

 

[Leyther]

Upto the late '90s city "singing section" was the Kippax, which was a side. Why not make it so again? Singing section level 1 of the east stand?
Also should give the away fans only one block in the lower tier and make up the numbers by extending the away fans around into level two of the east stand.

 

[Didsbury Dave]

If you say so Dave.

Sorry if I sound rude, but I'm more inclined to believe Danny Wilson and what I saw with my very own eyes.

The will is definitely there.(the club) Unfortunately the way the stadium is configured makes the move impractical or impossible, even with a blank cheque.

The fact that away fans sit there anyway for cup games proves that this can easily be done. They've bullshitted you.

You can't put them on the top tier very easily becuase it uses the same access routes as tier 1, but that's about it.

-- Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:24 pm --

I think you are wrong as there are only around 3k seats left online. There will be additional seats in the Family stand that aren't shown online, but even so we must be well ahead of last year.

I haven't counted to be fair to you. But there look an awful lot more available than that to me.

Well I have taken up your challenge. There are 1150 in the 3rd tier of the east stand. Therefore there are 2500 max left on the planner.

If that's right then we've sold almost 40k season tickets. That would be superb and if that is the case I apologize profusely because this thread is a load of rubbish. I hope so