Season Tickets - 2025/26 | Changes to ticket transfer this season (p101)

Marvin. said:
We should distinguish between technology and the exercise of political power. Football clubs are not involved in politics, and dissent etc, so if City want to introduce facial recognition and biometrics, so what? What social consequences can there be?

I take it as a given that the state films protestors, and automatically scans people all the time. The issue there is not the tech. but the role of the state. It's like the gun. Gun's are not bad per se. It's who is using them. I don't regard City as an enemy so I am neutral on the use of FRT at City.
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Bollocks the club are using technology to reduce fans freewill to enable the less fortunate to get the occasional cheap or free ticket when it's not being used by the owner, so they can control and benefit from the cash flows associated with passing it on.
 
Blue Maverick said:
So when are they asking for our faces then because as far as I know they don’t know what I look like, that’s only going to work if they have something to compare it to?
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I'm not sure how it is going to work but if you walk through and scan your ticket it will record what you look like. If you then get up to no good , perhaps some gambling shenanigans, and it is caught on camera then they would be able to match your face and seat. As said, no idea how it works or if it will come into play.
 
LongsightM13 said:
Absolutely. I took pelters about it myself
A previous job took me to the heart of this technology and the debates around it, so without giving it the big ‘un, I probably know a bit more about it than the average poster and can speak from a relatively informed position.
City are certainly overreaching here and of course we had evidence that they’ve been planning this for years
I muted most of the idiots in the end, the bootlicker argument that “if you’re doing nothing wrong” etc etc remains laughable as ever
If that’s the case, allow the old bill to wake you up and ransack your house at 4am every Saturday, without cause or evidence
After all, “If you’ve got nothing to hide”…
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I’m struggling to make the connection as to why the police would do such a thing to me just because I was seen on camera entering the Etihad to watch a game of football.
 
Marvin. said:
We should distinguish between technology and the exercise of political power. Football clubs are not involved in politics, and dissent etc, so if City want to introduce facial recognition and biometrics, so what? What social consequences can there be?

I take it as a given that the state films protestors, and automatically scans people all the time. The issue there is not the tech. but the role of the state. It's like the gun. Gun's are not bad per se. It's who is using them. I don't regard City as an enemy so I am neutral on the use of FRT at City.
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“Guns are not bad per se”. They’re not exactly what you’d want for Christmas though.
 
I probably miss 1 or 2 games per season including all the cup games. My son misses 3 or 4. If either of us can’t go I always offer my ticket or my son’s to a friend and her son. I never ask for a penny as I’ve already paid for our STs and it’s rare I / we miss a match.
We’ll both be absent for Spurs so I planned to transfer both tickets to my friend - one for her, one for her son (he’s seven so doesn’t have an email address).
Am I right in now thinking I can’t transfer two tickets (mine and my son’s) to my friend’s email address? She’s on my F&F. He isn’t on my F&F and he also doesn’t have a supporter number.
They’ve made this deliberately obtuse
 
Gray said:
Set her up but she got no supporter number, does anybody know how you delete someone?
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I had to click the message support team to find her supporter number, it auto populated by complete fluke int he enquiry form.
 
uwerosler28 said:
Bollocks the club are using technology to reduce fans freewill to enable the less fortunate to get the occasional cheap or free ticket when it's not being used by the owner, so they can control and benefit from the cash flows associated with passing it on.
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That depends on what policies City adopt with the transfer of ticketing rights and ticket prices etc. You could employ FRT and make it work for fans if you wanted.
 
Moss Side's Finest said:
Nonsense. Regardless of the conspiracy culture we live in, rule on individuals data are VERY strict. They cannot use your data without informing you prior, if they do then they would be in breach of all sorts of GDPR rules. I'm not saying what you said won't happen in the future, it probably will given self serve checkouts now use your photos, but they can't do it on the snide.
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Then why have the club spent thousands installing these cameras if they can't be used? Apart from letting staff in to the ground which is truly laughable.
 
Moss Side's Finest said:
Nonsense. Regardless of the conspiracy culture we live in, rule on individuals data are VERY strict. They cannot use your data without informing you prior, if they do then they would be in breach of all sorts of GDPR rules. I'm not saying what you said won't happen in the future, it probably will given self serve checkouts now use your photos, but they can't do it on the snide.
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The club was literally plotting this in 2019 with a subdivision of LiveNation/Ticketmaster
Nothing to do with policing or safety. Pure commercial greed
And given the shitshow they’ve made of IT security over the years, whether the liverpool hack or the Pinto hack, we are well within our rights to be concerned with the club’s shabby and amateurish record on personal data security

www.iqmagazine.com

Blink Identity wins Manchester City FC pilot

The LN-backed biometrics company will deploy its facial-recognition-at-walking-speed solution in a trial with Manchester City owner City Football Group.
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Marvin. said:
We should distinguish between technology and the exercise of political power. Football clubs are not involved in politics, and dissent etc, so if City want to introduce facial recognition and biometrics, so what? What social consequences can there be?

I take it as a given that the state films protestors, and automatically scans people all the time. The issue there is not the tech. but the role of the state. It's like the gun. Gun's are not bad per se. It's who is using them. I don't regard City as an enemy so I am neutral on the use of FRT at City.
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Mindless bootlicker bullshit
 
bladdered said:
Then why have the club spent thousands installing these cameras if they can't be used? Apart from letting staff in to the ground which is truly laughable.
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Probably because they're working on the legal aspects to start doing what he said above, all I meant was, they can't do it without that being in place and letting people know that's what's happening
 
LongsightM13 said:
The club was literally plotting this in 2019 with a subdivision of LiveNation/Ticketmaster
Nothing to do with policing or safety. Pure commercial greed
And given the shitshow they’ve made of IT security over the years, whether the liverpool hack or the Pinto hack, we are well within our rights to be concerned with the club’s shabby and amateurish record on personal data security

www.iqmagazine.com

Blink Identity wins Manchester City FC pilot

The LN-backed biometrics company will deploy its facial-recognition-at-walking-speed solution in a trial with Manchester City owner City Football Group.
www.iqmagazine.com www.iqmagazine.com
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Shabby and amateurish is pretty harsh without real evidence, or you being an expert
 
metalblue said:
Trying to nominate a non member but looks like will spend tomorrow on the phone

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I hope you get it sorted mate, by that I mean I REALLY hope you get it sorted :)

To anyone else having problems don't try to sort it wearing your Phil The Face masks it probably wont fly.
 
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