Seat Counters - 2024/25

Does anybody know how many tkts went on sale to ST holders this morning for Liverpool
 
SSL2 said:
18-25 was 117 available, when it should've been 153.

Not sure on total allocation that went on sale.
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Yup mate text me that. Means 18/25 pot
Makes the available allocation roughly 2340 so minus the 117.

2233 should be to points after the cut from the original pot but I doubt it.

So the 5% really is 3.8% after the cut.
 
Matty M24blue said:
Yup mate text me that. Means 18/25 pot
Makes the available allocation roughly 2340 so minus the 117.

2233 should be to points after the cut from the original pot but I doubt it.

So the 5% really is 3.8% after the cut.
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There are currently 1,459 tickets available out of an allocation of 3,055. 60% are supposed to go to points holders which is 1,833. It's debatable whether or not the 5% for the 18-25 is separate or comes out of that allocation. If it is from that allocation that only means 91 tickets available and they have sold out. 1833 - 91 = 1742. that means 283 tickets sold to people over 31k?? Unlikely I think.
 
Eds said:
There are currently 1,459 tickets available out of an allocation of 3,055. 60% are supposed to go to points holders which is 1,833. It's debatable whether or not the 5% for the 18-25 is separate or comes out of that allocation. If it is from that allocation that only means 91 tickets available and they have sold out. 1833 - 91 = 1742. that means 283 tickets sold to people over 31k?? Unlikely I think.
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Have you factored in that a lot of those on 31K+ might be getting a junior ticket as well?
 
Stephen230 said:
Have you factored in that a lot of those on 31K+ might be getting a junior ticket as well?
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No I didn’t although my point still stands that it’s unlikely the full 60% allocation was given. But nobody is surprised are they? The club refuse to be transparent on this issue despite repeatedly being asked.
 
Eds said:
No I didn’t although my point still stands that it’s unlikely the full 60% allocation was given. But nobody is surprised are they? The club refuse to be transparent on this issue despite repeatedly being asked.
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I wasn’t trying to suggest otherwise mate. Jesus, no way in a million years we’re getting the full 60% for the most popular games.

Is that 60% even an official figure? I’ve seen it quoted that many times but can’t even remember where it originated from now?
 
Stephen230 said:
I wasn’t trying to suggest otherwise mate. Jesus, no way in a million years we’re getting the full 60% for the most popular games.

Is that 60% even an official figure? I’ve seen it quoted that many times but can’t even remember where it originated from now?
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Came from City Matters.
 
Eds said:
There are currently 1,459 tickets available out of an allocation of 3,055. 60% are supposed to go to points holders which is 1,833. It's debatable whether or not the 5% for the 18-25 is separate or comes out of that allocation. If it is from that allocation that only means 91 tickets available and they have sold out. 1833 - 91 = 1742. that means 283 tickets sold to people over 31k?? Unlikely I think.
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Feckin hell is that all long-term supporters get these days?? Didn't realise it was that bad to be fair.
Where the fuck do the other 40% go - outside corporate and 18-25 (assuming they're not in the 60%).
Let's see how we get on in the National League next season ;)
 
WesthoughtonJohn said:
Feckin hell is that all long-term supporters get these days?? Didn't realise it was that bad to be fair.
Where the fuck do the other 40% go - outside corporate and 18-25 (assuming they're not in the 60%).
Let's see how we get on in the National League next season ;)
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It's why the away support at the dippers was dire last season, the away end is getting diluted with folk who aren't even city fans. It's an absolute farce.
 
If the club receives a allocation of 3000 tickets the following should apply as agreed by City and City matters.
60% to the loyalty scheme = 1800 tickets
Out of this allocation comes 5% for18/25 = 90 tickets
And 5% for Juniors = 90 tickets.
The remaining 40% go to the following,
20% go to the supporters clubs = 600 tickets
20% go to hospitality, travel partners and City staff = 600 tickets .
 
Liverpool and Utd are the worse for day trippers. I think I'll miss out on this with 23.9k ( 100 short of what I think it'll sell out on)
 
Chappie said:
If the club receives a allocation of 3000 tickets the following should apply as agreed by City and City matters.
60% to the loyalty scheme = 1800 tickets
Out of this allocation comes 5% for18/25 = 90 tickets
And 5% for Juniors = 90 tickets.
The remaining 40% go to the following,
20% go to the supporters clubs = 600 tickets
20% go to hospitality, travel partners and City staff = 600 tickets .
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Thank you sir - those numbers actually make some sort of sense, other than the "travel partners".
Policing some of that would seem to be the issue then no?????
 
When the club are putting the criteria at 32000 as a starting point you know the system is being abused, for context, that is virtually not missing a game for 23 years, platinum, and every cup scheme, I believe it’s to create the illusion that there are loads of people on that amount of points, when in truth it can be no more than 50 or so, it’s completely misleading
 
fathellensbellend said:
When the club are putting the criteria at 32000 as a starting point you know the system is being abused, for context, that is virtually not missing a game for 23 years, platinum, and every cup scheme, I believe it’s to create the illusion that there are loads of people on that amount of points, when in truth it can be no more than 50 or so, it’s completely misleading
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Nobody knows do they, outside of the club? My guess would be a bit higher. Low hundreds maybe. Last I heard there were still 26 Superbia who would I suppose technically come in to that category.

Also of course, it probably accounts for nobody in reality, but in theory you could be on the absolute maximum points possible and have not been to a single away game in three or four years and counting.
 
Chappie said:
If the club receives a allocation of 3000 tickets the following should apply as agreed by City and City matters.
60% to the loyalty scheme = 1800 tickets
Out of this allocation comes 5% for18/25 = 90 tickets
And 5% for Juniors = 90 tickets.
The remaining 40% go to the following,
20% go to the supporters clubs = 600 tickets
20% go to hospitality, travel partners and City staff = 600 tickets .
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Wasn’t the 18-25 allocation initially meant to be 5% of the total allocation? There are just under 1100 tickets left meaning that around 700 tickets have sold today with criteria still at 29k!
 
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fathellensbellend said:
When the club are putting the criteria at 32000 as a starting point you know the system is being abused, for context, that is virtually not missing a game for 23 years, platinum, and every cup scheme, I believe it’s to create the illusion that there are loads of people on that amount of points, when in truth it can be no more than 50 or so, it’s completely misleading
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When I retired 16 years ago I had 4,000 points, since then I have been to every away game I could get a ticket for. I now have over 30,000 points. Anyone who put in the hard work would also have about 30k+. P
 
fathellensbellend said:
When the club are putting the criteria at 32000 as a starting point you know the system is being abused, for context, that is virtually not missing a game for 23 years, platinum, and every cup scheme, I believe it’s to create the illusion that there are loads of people on that amount of points, when in truth it can be no more than 50 or so, it’s completely misleading
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@Alex - City Matters Why isn’t there at the very least transparency on the numbers on points? England Travel Supporters Club have a caps table so you can see where tickets are going based on each away allocation.

It would stop a lot of the hearsay and innuendo.
 
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