Seat Counters 25/26

Ban-jani said:
Something bugging me about the seat count. There’s blocks in the middle of both CB stand 3 and East 3 that have zero seats, then right next to them it’s in the hundreds. Is that due to these third party vendors being given decent view tickets? Is it genuine sales as that is the best view? Is it that City have taken those off sale to sell other blocks first?
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I was right, more level 3 blocks taken off and they’ve added a handful of seats back to the bottom tier.

City playing silly buggers. expecting a bump after the result today if positive enough, then they should also allow people to buy multiple.
 
Ban-jani said:
Wish I could like this more times.
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I can’t understand why this discussion has not been had? Long term streaming of matches will be owned by the clubs themselves. We have already put on events in the US where fans pay a premium price to watch games in VR as an immersive experience. This sort of event will become the norm. But the product needs fans in the grounds. The broadcasters are ripping off fans as far as I’m concerned. No one is speaking up for local fans.
 
Ban-jani said:
Something bugging me about the seat count. There’s blocks in the middle of both CB stand 3 and East 3 that have zero seats, then right next to them it’s in the hundreds. Is that due to these third party vendors being given decent view tickets? Is it genuine sales as that is the best view? Is it that City have taken those off sale to sell other blocks first?
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You're getting the hang of this mate. These could actually be currrently allocated to off site hospitality and may come back on sale. But you're dead right: when every seat in one block is sold and there are 200 in the next block, it's not an accurate seat count.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
You're getting the hang of this mate. These could actually be currrently allocated to off site hospitality and may come back on sale. But you're dead right: when every seat in one block is sold and there are 200 in the next block, it's not an accurate seat count.
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Next 48 hours will likely see the true picture of where we are, many will be waiting to see how tonight goes before buying.

The next option is opening up for people to buy multiple and then general sale by the weekend if sales slow.

Can see a lot going if it’s general sale, quite quickly.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
If it wasn’t for PSR clubs could subsidise match day tickets. This could be avoided by part of the broadcast contract being ringfenced to keep tickets lower for ordinary fans. Another solution would be to make spending on subsidising tickets to be exempt from PSR as is infrastructure spending. Clubs would be allowed to charge market level prices for corporate sections.
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I like it.
 
Ban-jani said:
Next 48 hours will likely see the true picture of where we are, many will be waiting to see how tonight goes before buying.

The next option is opening up for people to buy multiple and then general sale by the weekend if sales slow.

Can see a lot going if it’s general sale, quite quickly.
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I'm not convinced there will be a surge after tonight's game, whatever the result. I think they need to allow season ticket holders and members to buy extra tickets ASAP. They never go on open sale any more but would sell even quicker if they went to anyone with a supporter number. The problem they've got is that a lot of fans have been kicking off at supporter's meetings about away fans in the home end, so they are stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
I'm not convinced there will be a surge after tonight's game, whatever the result. I think they need to allow season ticket holders and members to buy extra tickets ASAP. They never go on open sale any more but would sell even quicker if they went to anyone with a supporter number. The problem they've got is that a lot of fans have been kicking off at supporter's meetings about away fans in the home end, so they are stuck between the devil and the deep blue sea.
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I'm also confused by some people's logic that if we get a  positive result tonight, then we're more likely see a surge in sales?

Surely this result would mean less jeopardy, making people less interested. Was the 2nd leg of the Newcastle semi final not pretty good proof of this?
 
EastMidlandsBlue said:
I'm also confused by some people's logic that if we get a  positive result tonight, then we're more likely see a surge in sales?

Surely this result would mean less jeopardy, making people less interested. Was the 2nd leg of the Newcastle semi final not pretty good proof of this?
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I think it's bit like these predicted sales surges around pay day. I don't think they actually happen. Given the current situation where you need a membership, are only allowed one ticket, and have to keep listening to announcements, I think that most people who want a ticket will have one by now apart from a trickle.
 
EastMidlandsBlue said:
I'm also confused by some people's logic that if we get a  positive result tonight, then we're more likely see a surge in sales?

Surely this result would mean less jeopardy, making people less interested. Was the 2nd leg of the Newcastle semi final not pretty good proof of this?
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It’s more if we’re within a goal, drawing or winning narrowly I meant. It didn’t happen against Newcastle you’re right, but there’s been champions league knockout games before where I could swear sales spiked after a positive away result, with the game still in the balance.

I don’t think it’ll be enough to get us to a sellout, they will need general sale I think for that.
 
bobbyowenquiff said:
I can’t understand why this discussion has not been had? Long term streaming of matches will be owned by the clubs themselves. We have already put on events in the US where fans pay a premium price to watch games in VR as an immersive experience. This sort of event will become the norm. But the product needs fans in the grounds. The broadcasters are ripping off fans as far as I’m concerned. No one is speaking up for local fans.
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This was the view in the 1990s. Realising it wasn't going to happen caused football club share prices to crash in the late 1990s.

It would be a disaster if it happens and you won't get a 2/3rd majority voting on it. Ifollow in the EFL showed it will only lead to a dystopian future.
 
pride in battle said:
People are skint, that is the SINGLE biggest factor, ticket prices for the Madrid game are okay but people are prioritizing.
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You’ve been normalised to think £50-£70 tickets are fine. That’s what we used to pay for a cup final ticket, and we’re now paying it for home games. People have less disposable income these days, as you’ve alluded to.

If the ticket prices were ok, they wouldn’t be pricing out people that are “skint” would they? Where’s logic in that?

If they were £30/£40/£50 for this, based on quality of seat, rather than the £47/£55/£70 it is, we’d be close to a sellout already.
 
pride in battle said:
People are skint, that is the SINGLE biggest factor, ticket prices for the Madrid game are okay but people are prioritizing.
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I think transport issues relating to metrolink and car parking are starting to outweigh pricing as the single biggest reason for the growing poor sales/non attendance.
 
Ban-jani said:
It’s more if we’re within a goal, drawing or winning narrowly I meant. It didn’t happen against Newcastle you’re right, but there’s been champions league knockout games before where I could swear sales spiked after a positive away result, with the game still in the balance.

I don’t think it’ll be enough to get us to a sellout, they will need general sale I think for that.
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If we'd have been 1-0 down after the first leg vs Newcastle, I rekon people would have been well up for the 2nd leg.
 
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